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MMQB: Breer on Wilks/potential OC candidate

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30 minutes ago, frankw said:

In theory you would love for your new OC to have multiple years of calling plays but the Joe Brady failure has made some folks uneasy. I get that but it's important to put it in perspective and remember this offense is night day with the same players due to Rhule's ass backwards way of doing things and all the college scheme nonsense. We will have a number of options and we should weigh them all carefully. But it's equally as important we pinpoint who will develop our next QB.

I'm honestly not sure if it's even fair to classify Joe Brady as a failure. I mean, just look at our offense now post-Rhule. Safe to say in retrospect that Rhule was probably heavily meddling in Brady's offense.

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15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly not sure if it's even fair to classify Joe Brady as a failure. I mean, just look at our offense now post-Rhule. Safe to say in retrospect that Rhule was probably heavily meddling in Brady's offense.

Brady was about to start driving things, was learning, adapting, getting his feet wet, and Rhule came in with his "I know how we need to get this done" direction...

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29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly not sure if it's even fair to classify Joe Brady as a failure. I mean, just look at our offense now post-Rhule. Safe to say in retrospect that Rhule was probably heavily meddling in Brady's offense.

I said it back then but got killed for it. I know folks wanted to believe Brady was the issue but the offensive woes have been a part of the build everywhere Rhule has been. 
 

He fired Brady at an odd time and cited a lack of runs each week as the reason and then from that point out for the rest of the year we dropped from 18th best offense to dead last AND WE RAN EVEN LESS. 
 

Rhule sucked. 

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34 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly not sure if it's even fair to classify Joe Brady as a failure. I mean, just look at our offense now post-Rhule. Safe to say in retrospect that Rhule was probably heavily meddling in Brady's offense.

We obviously aren’t in a position to ever know now, but man Id kill to know what Brady could have been without Rhule. I honestly think he would have been a good to great OC without Rhules garbage 

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I remember Robbie Anderson (I know not the best source) yelling on the sidelines that the defense knew our routes before we ran them.  Brady was a co-coordinator in college, and offensive coordinator for us, and now is a qb coach on a team that doesn't really need a qb coach. He was Rhule's pick. It is possible that both Rhule AND Brady were the problem. Please hire a proven OC. 

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5 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

I remember Robbie Anderson (I know not the best source) yelling on the sidelines that the defense knew our routes before we ran them.  Brady was a co-coordinator in college, and offensive coordinator for us, and now is a qb coach on a team that doesn't really need a qb coach. He was Rhule's pick. It is possible that both Rhule AND Brady were the problem. Please hire a proven OC. 

If they are a proven OC why would they want to become our OC and not a HC? If we keep Wilks then we are going to have to take a shot on the offensive side and it will likely determine Wilks chances of success of making it over .500 as a HC. This is why so many are just calling for an OC hire as HC, DCs are easy to come by compared to OCs. Hell this thread is all about the Eagles losing their OC and QB coach in one offseason. 

We know Rhule was an issue, it's already been confirmed this year. We don't know what Brady is as an OC because that has never been seen without Rhule. I get what you are saying but I need to see Brady without Rhule before confirming he is a complete dud and it wasn't a huge part of Rhule that made him fail here.  There is just no confirmation until he gets another shot and by him going up to the Bills I am guessing it won't be long because that pantry will get raided on the offensive side sooner than latter too. 

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47 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

Pairing a questionable defensive minded head coach hire with a quarterbacks coach who has never called plays before sounds like a great idea. Joe Brady level great idea. 

That's kinda what I was thinking.  It could work but on the surface it doesn't look like a good idea

 

And fug no to whoever suggested pep Hamilton 

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I know QB coach -> OC is the norm, but I'd really like a candidate to have a background with the O-line or as a running game coordinator. We'll probably need to coach up some young QB's for a while here, but we've got an elite run game right now and need to keep it that way. The next OC needs to be able to keep the running game as varied and effective as it is now.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Eagles QB coach had crossed my mind too awhile back so I looked him up. Oh wee mayne does he seriously lack experience in terms of getting an NFL OC job. Not sure we'd be apt to go that route after the Joe Brady experiment.

I don't have a problem making a leap that like if the people interviewing him have a clue how to assess football coaching ability. 

So, is Wilks hiring him or is David Tepper?

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