Jason LaCanfora: Panthers potential landing spot for Raiders QB Derek Carr

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, glenwo2 said:

I'm not feeling the "Beat the Brakes" thing.

 

Now "Beat the sh-t out of" thing, I'm game.

"Beat the brakes off of" is a common southern saying. If you have ever changed brakes on an old car, it makes sense.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, TheMaulClaw said:

     I disagree with this comparison.  Kyle Allen was a virtual unknown and was able to capitalize primarily because there was very little tape on him.  Also Kyle Allen wasn't a bad player.  It's a shame he got hurt in Washington honestly.  Not saying he would have developed into this amazing QB, but Allen could play a lot better then he was given credit for.  The biggest issue with Allen really was small hands, and so  he fumbled a lot.

   Many people have already labeled Darnold and once labeled it's very hard to shake.  Darnold has been good enough to earn the respect of his teammates and his coaches.  He handled a very strange situation very maturely this year.  We have seen Darnold develop, and honestly how can we judge him when Matt Rhule was his coach, the offensive line was abysmal, and the coaches were horrible at game planning with CMC hurt last year.  

   Darnold is a known quantity in the NFL unlike Allen, meaning he has years of tape and his game isn't unfamiliar to opponents.  Darnold has gotten better and better and he is starting to turn the corner.  The trade for Darnold when all is said is done may turn out to be a good trade. 

    The knock on Darnold has been mental.  "Seeing ghosts" is all people think about Darnold when they cast judgement on him, but he looks like he has sorted that out.  He is playing with some confidence we haven't seen, and for the first time in his career he looks comfortable under pressure and in command. 

   Darnold was a high draft pick for a reason, and now he is finally turning into a fully mature player.  If he finishes out 5-1 and gets us into the playoffs why would you not sign him to a bridge deal?

I don't think that the Huddle is capable of assessing Darnold because of our fans have QB Stockholm Syndrome after years of bad QB play.

Darnold is objectively very bad as an NFL QB. He is better than he has been in the past because they literally ask him to do next to nothing. He is also rarely asked to throw deep in this offense. So, wasn't Teddy a WILDLY better QB in that role?

Darnold has very little NFL future in anything other than a 2nd or 3rd QB role.

[mav1234]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

"Beat the brakes off of" is a common southern saying. If you have ever changed brakes on an old car, it makes sense.

Growing up in the northeast I also heard it occasionally, tho not in a long time.  Definitely heard it living in Raleigh a couple years back. Also has physical or violent connotations in some usages.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Growing up in the northeast I also heard it occasionally, tho not in a long time.  Definitely heard it living in Raleigh a couple years back. Also has physical or violent connotations in some usages.

Yeah, it's usually used that way for the reason mentioned. I have heard it elsewhere but mainly in the south.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, it's usually used that way for the reason mentioned. I have heard it elsewhere but mainly in the south.

Have you heard the phrase "stump trained their asses"?  It's used in the same connotation as "bent them over and went in deep"

[Carl Spackler]

Jason LaCanfora hasn't seen a clip of the Panthers since around 2014. He'll link every bad QB there for wishful thinking.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Have you heard the phrase "stump trained their asses"?  It's used in the same connotation as "bent them over and went in deep"

Yep. Lol

[GOAT]

I would hate it but he does check my boxes for a super bowl winning QB...

[mav1234]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Darnold is objectively very bad as an NFL QB. He is better than he has been in the past because they literally ask him to do next to nothing. He is also rarely asked to throw deep in this offense.

I agree with your general point in your post so only copied this bit.Other than vs Seattle, where our gameplan seemed to limit that deliberately (perhaps we had a lot of faith in their secondary? Hard to be sure), Darnold has had 25/64 of his passes thrown at least 10 yards past the line of scrimmage (and 13 >20 yards).  This is not a bad rate IMO, esp for a backup/bridge.  He's also completed at least one 30+ yard pass thru the air in each week but vs Sea where he had a terrible underthrow, too.  All this is air yards traveled btw, not based on YAC. We aren't asking him to throw often, but when we do, it is often to take the top off the defense.

[CPcavedweller]

I'd take Darnold before I'd trade yet more picks for another QB.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I agree with your general point in your post so only copied this bit.Other than vs Seattle, where our gameplan seemed to limit that deliberately (perhaps we had a lot of faith in their secondary? Hard to be sure), Darnold has had 25/64 of his passes thrown at least 10 yards past the line of scrimmage (and 13 >20 yards).  This is not a bad rate IMO, esp for a backup/bridge.  He's also completed at least one 30+ yard pass thru the air in each week but vs Sea where he had a terrible underthrow, too.  All this is air yards traveled btw, not based on YAC. We aren't asking him to throw often, but when we do, it is often to take the top off the defense.

I supposed he is like 64% completion. percentage on passes over 10 yards, that's not nothing.

Still, you can see that we are intentionally limiting his use.

[Mr. Scot]

Side Note:  Speculation of a Brady-McDaniels reunion in Vegas has begun.

(and honestly, it might not be such a bad idea)

Edited December 29, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[CPcavedweller]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I supposed he is like 64% completion. percentage on passes over 10 yards, that's not nothing.

Still, you can see that we are intentionally limiting his use.

Because we ran...for 320 yards...and have the 4th best rushing offense in the league since Christian left...

We aren't limiting his use. We are maximizing our running game and offensive line and there are a fixed number of snaps per game.

You're reading the situation wrong, as is typical here.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I supposed he is like 64% completion. percentage on passes over 10 yards, that's not nothing.

Still, you can see that we are intentionally limiting his use.

Yes they are limiting the offense.  That is mostly do to 1). the effectiveness of the run game and 2). past limitations of our current qb. They are slowly working on number 2.  If they had just stuck to fixing these 2 issues in the offseason and not bring in Mayfield to play that stupid qb competition bs who knows where this team would be. But we had to endure that crap to get rid of the biggest problem facing this team, Rhule.