It's time for the NFLPA to stand up for field conditions

[TheCasillas]

The Lions reportedely hated our field and the condition of it.. they were quoted saying it felt like landing on concrete. 

In all honesty owners are going to continue to take advantage of the turf field option until its outlawed. Its time for the NFLPA to stand up for their players. This is the game of checks and balances, and the NFLPA needs to put their foot down this offseason. Until they speak up, it's no one person's fault but their own. By no means am I standing up for the owners of the NFL, but I am expecting the NFLPA to do their jobs and fight for the players this offseason. 

https://www.mlive.com/lions/2022/12/lions-trash-field-conditions-in-carolina-i-didnt-think-that-was-actually-legal.html

[TheCasillas]

also, Merry Christmas!

Edited December 25, 2022 by TheCasillas

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Turf does not cause more injuries. It was cold, of course the ground was hard. Tepper isn't going back to grass.

[Cullenator]

I get that the NFLPA is looking out for their members but honestly when you look at the product on the field their efforts have made it objectively worse.

By limiting practices, in particular full contact practices, the NFLPA is directly responsible for the lower quality of play that we see week in and week out.

If they decide to take up the cause of the playing surface I can only assume that they will find a way to fug it up too.

 

And Im a very pro-union guy.  Just in the case of the NFLPA I think they have had a long run of extremely myopic leadership.

[toldozer]

So they got their ass whipped and now they're crying. I'm sure it was their offense crying,  not their defense because they didn't tackle anyone all day.

[uncfan888]

The ground was frozen. My yard isn't turf and it feels like concrete. They need to stop bitching

[Harbingers]

7 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

The ground was frozen. My yard isn't turf and it feels like concrete. They need to stop bitching

If the ground underneath turf freezes it feels harder than regular frozen sod.

Basically if water collects under the turf in the layer of soil and freezes. You are basically playing on a thin layer of carpet on an ice rink. 
 

Where as natural grass adds that barrier of water absorption. 
 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Harbingers

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

David Tepper right now:

[Tbe]

The Lions home field is slit film turf.

 

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

If the ground underneath turf freezes it feels harder than regular frozen sod.

Basically if water collects under the turf in the layer of soil and freezes. You are basically playing on a thin layer of carpet on an ice rink. 
 

Where as natural grass adds that barrier of water absorption. 
 

 

Drainage isn’t the issue. Everything just froze and became very hard. 

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

If the ground underneath turf freezes it feels harder than regular frozen sod.

Basically if water collects under the turf in the layer of soil and freezes. You are basically playing on a thin layer of carpet on an ice rink. 
 

Where as natural grass adds that barrier of water absorption. 
 

Yesterday was exceptional though.  At 8 degrees, the ground is rock hard regardless.  The Bears were also complaining about the field conditions in Chicago, and it is grass. 

[Harbingers]

10 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Yesterday was exceptional though.  At 8 degrees, the ground is rock hard regardless.  The Bears were also complaining about the field conditions in Chicago, and it is grass. 

Chicago did switch their sod this year. But they also heat their field. I highly doubt we have a heating system currently. 

[MillionDollarCam]

Grievance is being filed.

 

[Davidson Deac II]

On 12/25/2022 at 1:17 PM, Harbingers said:

If the ground underneath turf freezes it feels harder than regular frozen sod.

Basically if water collects under the turf in the layer of soil and freezes. You are basically playing on a thin layer of carpet on an ice rink. 
 

Where as natural grass adds that barrier of water absorption. 
 

Not in 14 degree weather.