We are currently picking 8th.

[45catfan]

12 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Have we ever had a bad pick when we picked in the top 10?

Not really since the early days.  For all Hurney's faults, he normally nailed his first rounder.  Gettleman was not great.  Fitts seems to be nailing his first rounders too.

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, Varking said:

Lawrence has been the best QB in football since the beginning of November. I think we need to define what young is. Under what? 30? 28? I think there are a bunch of good young QBs in the NFL. I think the Brady and Rodgers type guys have finally fallen off. 

My criteria is 3 seasons or less in the nfl.

[Davidson Deac II]

3 hours ago, Varking said:

Lawrence and Burrow both went first overall. How are they not two of your best young QBs in the NFL? 

I said three of four.  Burrow was the fourth.  

Lawrence has played well of late, but imo the jury is still out on any qb's drafted last year.  

[Snake]

36 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I said three of four.  Burrow was the fourth.  

Lawrence has played well of late, but imo the jury is still out on any qb's drafted last year.  

Rarely do QBs show how successful they will be year two. I would say Fields is looking like a bust just simply because how terrible that entire team has been. He definitely might bust and I was a big fan of his. 

[Varking]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

Rarely do QBs show how successful they will be year two. I would say Fields is looking like a bust just simply because how terrible that entire team has been. He definitely might bust and I was a big fan of his. 

With no team around him Fields last 6 games:

94 of 138 ( 68% ) passing for 1000 yards, 10 passing touchdowns, 6 rushing touchdowns, 636 yards on the ground and just 4 INT. 0 lost fumbles. 
 

That’s a trash roster around him on offense and he’s doing work. Looking like anything but a bust at the moment. 
 

I won’t even compare that to how trash we’ve been at passing the last 6 games.

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

Rarely do QBs show how successful they will be year two. I would say Fields is looking like a bust just simply because how terrible that entire team has been. He definitely might bust and I was a big fan of his. 

I think the needle is pointing up for Fields.  He is carrying Chicago's offense and about the only positive about that team.  Give him some weapons and see if he can turn some of these games into some wins next year.  I might even go as far as saying I'd take him at his current state vs any QB in this draft.

[MVPccaffrey]

This is the NFL, not the NBA, if you can't put a winning team together after years of drafting in the top 10, that's an indictment of your franchise, and it wouldn't have mattered at that point if you'd have top 3 picks

[Sgt Schultz]

Fields is in a worse situation in terms of offensive talent around him than Cam was here throughout most of his career.

In terms of our draft position, go Rams.

[Basbear]

3 hours ago, Varking said:

With no team around him Fields last 6 games:

94 of 138 ( 68% ) passing for 1000 yards, 10 passing touchdowns, 6 rushing touchdowns, 636 yards on the ground and just 4 INT. 0 lost fumbles. 
 

That’s a trash roster around him on offense and he’s doing work. Looking like anything but a bust at the moment. 
 

I won’t even compare that to how trash we’ve been at passing the last 6 games.

thats very impressive. 

[mc52beast]

20 hours ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

We need to find a way into the top 5 somehow (aka lose the rest of our games).

We either get a Franchise QB or get a Franchise Edge rusher if we do - both things we need very badly.

Drafting at the top doesn’t guarantee you get a franchise QB. Just look at the history of qb’s picked in the top 10 who actually panned out.

[Varking]

18 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Drafting at the top doesn’t guarantee you get a franchise QB. Just look at the history of qb’s picked in the top 10 who actually panned out.

It guarantees you that you are relying on less teams to mess up your chances going after “your guy”. 

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

Drafting at the top doesn’t guarantee you get a franchise QB. Just look at the history of qb’s picked in the top 10 who actually panned out.

Or a franchise edge rusher for that matter.  Although on the surface, those seem to be a bit more of a sure thing than qb.  

 

[BeenPounding]

We just need to sign Gardner Minshew II.  Draft a stud DE in the top 10.  Fill out the holes with our other picks.  Him and Matt Corral in a QB room would be a blast.  Our offense needs some spice and flavor, this dude has the recipe to at least make the Panthers fun again.  I really hope he starts for Philly this week and our scouting department is all over the tape.  I know I'll be glued to that game if he's playing.

Aside from the hype that his personality brings, the QB's coming out this year are not impact QB's.  It's going to take a few seasons for any of them to develop into what he is capable of.  We aren't getting Young or Stroud.  Levis is not it.  Hooker is about the same age as GMII without the years of pro experience.  Long story short, most college QB's outside of a clear #1 such as Burrow or Lawrence are a roll of the dice.  None of the 2023 draft class is worth what it would take to make a boss move to into the top 3 or 5.

2023 Free Agent QB's - 

Lamar Jackson - He's not leaving Baltimore

Tom Brady - He's not coming here

Teddy Bridgewater - nope

Baker Mayfield - nope

Sam Darnold -  We know how this will go, maybe as a back-up if Corral has no future

Daniel Jones - Basically Sam Darnold 2023, hard pass

Jimmy Garoppolo - The QB equivalent of the missionary possession; no risk, can get the job done, but after a while everyone has your game figured out.

Jacoby Brissett - One part Teddy B mixed with a garnish of Jimmy G

This is the hill I am willing to die on until Uncle Rico rescues me with deep pass sailing past our mountain of futility. Keep Wilks, bring in Frank Reich as OC or throw a bag of money at Shane Steichen so GMII can come in knowing the offense.

[Gerry Green]

24 minutes ago, BeenPounding said:

We just need to sign Gardner Minshew II.  Draft a stud DE in the top 10.  Fill out the holes with our other picks.  Him and Matt Corral in a QB room would be a blast.  Our offense needs some spice and flavor, this dude has the recipe to at least make the Panthers fun again.  I really hope he starts for Philly this week and our scouting department is all over the tape.  I know I'll be glued to that game if he's playing.

Aside from the hype that his personality brings, the QB's coming out this year are not impact QB's.  It's going to take a few seasons for any of them to develop into what he is capable of.  We aren't getting Young or Stroud.  Levis is not it.  Hooker is about the same age as GMII without the years of pro experience.  Long story short, most college QB's outside of a clear #1 such as Burrow or Lawrence are a roll of the dice.  None of the 2023 draft class is worth what it would take to make a boss move to into the top 3 or 5.

2023 Free Agent QB's - 

Lamar Jackson - He's not leaving Baltimore

Tom Brady - He's not coming here

Teddy Bridgewater - nope

Baker Mayfield - nope

Sam Darnold -  We know how this will go, maybe as a back-up if Corral has no future

Daniel Jones - Basically Sam Darnold 2023, hard pass

Jimmy Garoppolo - The QB equivalent of the missionary possession; no risk, can get the job done, but after a while everyone has your game figured out.

Jacoby Brissett - One part Teddy B mixed with a garnish of Jimmy G

This is the hill I am willing to die on until Uncle Rico rescues me with deep pass sailing past our mountain of futility. Keep Wilks, bring in Frank Reich as OC or throw a bag of money at Shane Steichen so GMII can come in knowing the offense.

 

I got no problem with this. But I would still probably take a flier on a QB anywho. As long as we bring in an Offensive staff I could be happy.