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Brock Purdy and why we don't need to draft a 1st round QB

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58 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s all a matter of opinion. I’ve seen AR ranked as the 3rd QB. Which 4 do you have 1st round grades on?

Most have Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Will Levis, Tanner McKee. I would personally take Hendon Hooker over Levis and McKee. PFF ranks

I would have Anthony Richardson sixth and well into the second round. People kept talking about how last year's qb class was weak and how this one was strong. I am just not seeing a strong qb class. Young and Stroud and then a pretty big drop off. 

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Move the Panthers to Raleigh

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5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I am gonna set the over/under on these type of threads at 10.5.

Are you taking the over or under before we actually hit the draft?

We can start the clock with the last one created and this one doesn't count towards it.

You had me worried at the title, @kungfoodude . I knew you were better than this

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42 minutes ago, RJK said:

Over all regimes since its inception this franchise has been a run first play good defense ball club. Teams have tendencies that seem to show themselves no matter who’s in charge. Not saying it can’t be done just that it never has. 

 

Yeah, I get that ppl thinking that Wilks being a Defensive guy doesn't care about Offense. I just have to believe that he knows that even if you are ground and pound, you still need to throw the ball. 

 

We need QB help. It's going to be fun seeing how THIS regime goes about that task.

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I'd rather have superior coaching, an effective system, great culture, and solid roster top to bottom, than swing for a home run QB talent. When you find one in a draft for cheap and have the other ingredients in place, you're a Super Bowl contender. Without, you can still be a dark horse contender and consistent playoff team.

The Steelers are a good example under Tomlin.

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6 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

Has anyone seen Corral on the sideline or does anyone know how his rehab is going? He seems to have fallen off the radar. 

I’ve seen him on the sidelines. Seemed in good spirits. 
 

Lisfranc has a lengthy recovery time so the updates will be few and far between, and he’s on IR so those guys, even established veterans kind of fall off the radar for the season. 

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2 hours ago, onmyown said:

flashes in the pan are a dime a dozen in the NFL, who cares. when there is tape, controversy, roster turnover and as time goes on, continuing at a high level is what’s rare.

Yup. Rule of thumb is generally 5ish games of tape and then the wheels fall off. 
 

Cool story, but once teams know his tendencies…that’s when we find if he’s legit or not. 

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Give me Mayer out of Notre Dame and Jalyn Hyatt out of Tennessee. Let's see what we have in Corral before we got spending any more picks on QB's. No QB's outside of Stroud or Young would be worth a 1st round pick this year. If we took Anthony Richardson we'd have two projects and Darnold which doesn't make sense to me.

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20 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I can't believe so many posters are AGAINST drafting a 1st round QB.  QB has been an issue for a while now and we can't just count on mid/late round diamonds or converting someone else's outcasts.  We aren't smarter than all the other teams in the league.  Just draft one we like and try to actually develop him.  We have solid OL now which is a nice first step.  

Have you seen the first round QB's outside of Burrow in recent years? They're trash.

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