Anthony Richardson declares for the draft

[mav1234]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean JaMarcus Russell was brimming with potential. As was Ryan Leaf. Potential is part of the equation, not the answer to it.

Or, as a buddy of mine once said, "Potential just means you haven't done poo yet."

Potential is why those guys got drafted, though. Whether or not a player makes it is a whole other thing - obviously everyone is trying to avoid drafting Ryan Leaf.  But as far as we know there aren't major warning signs about AR...

[Varking]

11 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Same could be said for other physical traits. I've seen too many athletic freaks, people with cannons for arms, not do jack and poo in the NFL. 

That’s why you watch the tape. Stats can catch your eye and that’s fine but then you need to go look at the plays. If a QB gets 200 yards a game off of screens then it’s not him doing work, it’s relying on receivers to do it. If a guy has a bad completion percent, when you watch the game and you regularly see guys get hit in the hands and not come down with it, that helps explain some of that. And those are the types of balls NFL WRs aren’t going to regularly drop. 

[Wundrbread33]

1 minute ago, Varking said:

That’s why you watch the tape. Stats can catch your eye and that’s fine but then you need to go look at the plays. If a QB gets 200 yards a game off of screens then it’s not him doing work, it’s relying on receivers to do it. If a guy has a bad completion percent, when you watch the game and you regularly see guys get hit in the hands and not come down with it, that helps explain some of that. And those are the types of balls NFL WRs aren’t going to regularly drop. 

Bingo. Context is everything. Understanding takes work though. Many won’t put in the effort.

[Varking]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Potential is why those guys got drafted, though. Whether or not a player makes it is a whole other thing - obviously everyone is trying to avoid drafting Ryan Leaf.  But as far as we know there aren't major warning signs about AR...

Ryan Leaf didn’t endear people to him. He was an asshole and gave you no reason to want to root for him. So the leash is shorter and he’s easier to move on from. Richardson is a hard worker and he’s a good kid with a good family around him. If he turns into a bust he’s still a guy who can run out there for trick plays at the AND GOAL portion of the field and then also throw here and there. 

[Guild]

Richardson is a good prospect.  If you don't wanna take a chance on him then I suspect you want to lose forever until we find the next Andy Luck.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Guild said:

Richardson is a good prospect.  If you don't wanna take a chance on him then I suspect you want to lose forever until we find the next Andy Luck.

Seems like most of our fanbase is there. Nothing short of the Andrew Luck type prospect is going to satisfy them. Everything else is a bad QB class  But the reality the Andrew Lucks come around about once a decade and the last one (Trevor Lawrence) isn't exactly setting the world on fire so far.

 

 

[Aussie Tank]

I’d give my left nut to have prime Cam Newton on this side 

[Guild]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seems like most of our fanbase is there. Nothing short of the Andrew Luck type prospect is going to satisfy them. Everything else is a bad QB class  But the reality the Andrew Lucks come around about once a decade and the last one (Trevor Lawrence) isn't exactly setting the world on fire so far.

 

 

Yep, in the NFL you figure out how to win with what you can get.  Better teams don't dig for the perfect #1 draft pick.  We should know from experience we've ruined plenty of great ones.

[Rags]

Richardson's archtype isn't anything new, he's a passer with limitations but with the legs. Cam did it. Wilson and Kapernick lived by it.  Fields, Allen, Lamar and Hurts are making a living by doing it. The NFLs defenses weakpoint seem to be this, there's no reason to run from it especially being a team who's strength lies in the run game.

Richardson as a runner is big, fast, and strong. His type of running will work in the NFL -- if you liked Malik Wilson or Trey Lance he's a much better runner than both of them -- so again, you have to ask yourself where do you think he'll be as a passer in a few years? Do you think his passing and running ability helps your team in the more immediate future. Though truthfully as fans we'll never really know until we see him on the field in an NFL uniform. 

Richardson can be the next big thing, or he can bust out and be a Jordan Love or a Pat White. But to act like the talent is there especially with the tends of the league is asinine. The arm talent is very apparent, and he's shown the ability to use his arm accurately. He's the Prototype QB. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Rags said:

Richardson's archtype isn't anything new, he's a passer with limitations but with the legs. Cam did it. Wilson and Kapernick lived by it.  Fields, Allen, Lamar and Hurts are making a living by doing it. The NFLs defenses weakpoint seem to be this, there's no reason to run from it especially being a team who's strength lies in the run game.

Richardson as a runner is big, fast, and strong. His type of running will work in the NFL -- if you liked Malik Wilson or Trey Lance he's a much better runner than both of them -- so again, you have to ask yourself where do you think he'll be as a passer in a few years? Do you think his passing and running ability helps your team in the more immediate future. Though truthfully as fans we'll never really know until we see him on the field in an NFL uniform. 

Richardson can be the next big thing, or he can bust out and be a Jordan Love or a Pat White. But to act like the talent is there especially with the tends of the league is asinine. The arm talent is very apparent, and he's shown the ability to use his arm accurately. He's the Prototype QB. 

I think even as a "bust" he will be able to produce due to the rushing ability as you say.   He will buy himself time to develop with his legs.  You can design an offense around that until he gets his passing down

[WOW!!]

9 minutes ago, Guild said:

Richardson is a good prospect.  If you don't wanna take a chance on him then I suspect you want to lose forever until we find the next Andy Luck.

I disagree with this based on the cavernous difference between Luck type prospects and Anthony Richardson type prospects..  Litttle to no college production is a issue.. Your basically drafting him on physical talent and hope..

[PNW_PantherMan]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seems like most of our fanbase is there. Nothing short of the Andrew Luck type prospect is going to satisfy them. Everything else is a bad QB class  But the reality the Andrew Lucks come around about once a decade and the last one (Trevor Lawrence) isn't exactly setting the world on fire so far.

 

 

And Peyton Manning is the only one that actually won a SB in the modern era, unless my memory is failing me.

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, Rags said:

How bout' you read my post again yeah? Slowly this time, maybe you'll find "Richardson is Cam".  I know what i typed and it wasn't that.

Like i said, comparing a talent is not saying they are the same player.

It's rather sad that you cannot read your own posts or follow your own arguments.

- You compare Richardson's talent running the ball to Cam.

- I reply that he is more Taysom Hill than Cam.

- Then you say that is an insult to Richardson's arm strength.

- I literally give you stats that I am 100% certain you literally never looked at.

- Then you cry that stats don’t matter.

- I point out that the on field play makes my point even more pertinent.

- Then you shriek that you never compared Richardson to Cam......literally despite this entire thing being over you comparing him to Cam.

 

So, maybe you are too stupid to follow your own logic train or maybe you are trying to crawfish your way out of making an outlandish comment.

[rippadonn]

1 hour ago, jayboogieman said:

What, should have come out and said they moved up to get the shiniest turd in the bowl instead of saying he was a "steal" in their eyes? Did you really expect them not to talk up a guy they used a draft pick on?

They wouldn't have done that IF he didn't grade out.

I'm not Matt Corrals, cousin, daddy or brother so I'm not looking at the kid with love in my eyes, WE (me, the Panthers, scouts) are looking at what the player has accomplished, his skillset, accuracy, What he's done on the field.

The kid has a ton of potential and a ton of heart. 

The huddle narrative doesn't fit reality. IF he was who you say he was nobody would move up in the draft to get him, but they did. He was a superior college QB, he put up the numbers and did so accurately.

Hold your horses hot rod. He hasn't even taken an NFL snap.