Report: Teams are doing homework on Jim Harbaugh

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

And they immediately crashed without him… 

But but deion or something.......

[ForJimmy]

He isn’t going to give up what he has in Michigan. Full control. That’s something we should never give a HC right away or possibly ever. He is a hell of a coach though. The players getting upset with him is overblown and probably Niners ownership trying to save face after firing a great HC.

[Aussie Tank]

How can people want to keep Wilks but not want Harbaugh? Sounds ludicrous to me 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Yeah between Wilks and Harbaugh its a no brainer. Harbaugh all day. I'd rather have the Eagles OC though.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He isn’t going to give up what he has in Michigan. Full control. That’s something we should never give a HC right away or possibly ever. He is a hell of a coach though. The players getting upset with him is overblown and probably Niners ownership trying to save face after firing a great HC.

I'm sure there are people who would tell you everyone really loved Matt Rhule too.

College coach control is virtual godhood. You're not gonna get that at the NFL level; and per his own words, not from Tepper.

Again, college is a much better environment for him.

[Sgt Schultz]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

And they immediately crashed without him… 

There were a lot of reasons for that, though.  Let's remember, after they pushed Harbaugh out, they did not have any credible HC candidates that wanted to talk to them seriously.  They wound up hiring Mr. Dunkin Donuts 2015 as their HC. 

Then there was the QB situation.  Harbaugh wanted to develop Kaepernick, and that process actually started in 2014.  It ended when Harbaugh left.  The only thing Tomsula knew about QBs were they were hard to catch.  So they did the easy thing, and ran Kaepernick out in the RPO again, despite the fact that the league had caught up to it.

I believe they openly shopped Kaepernick after Harbaugh was dispatched, and didn't get any bites big enough for what they wanted.

They were also an aging team at that point. 

They were pretty much heading into a rebuild at that point.  Here is an article from March of 2015 that describes their situation pretty well.  Most of those things were going to happen even if Harbaugh had been there.  The only wild card was probably whether Kaepernick was going to become more of a QB than a runner who took the snap.  There is no guarantee that was going to work, either, but he and Harbaugh were on the same page about the next steps.

Here is an article from March 2015 that describes what the 49ers were up against back then.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/colin-kaepernick-trade-49ers-rumors-san-francisco

Moral of the story was 2015 was going to be a down year, even with Harbaugh.  It takes a vivid imagination to think he was going to roll a 12-4 or 11-5 with that team and an Owl run.  The fact that they hired a DL coach to run the entire show made it worse, and put them in a situation where there only taker for 2016 was a guy who was pretty much being dispatched from the NFL (Chip Kelly). 

They were an effing mess the likes that even we can't touch.

[The Lobo]

48 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Sign me up

LFG champ 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

5 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

How can people want to keep Wilks but not want Harbaugh? Sounds ludicrous to me 

Yeah I can understand him not being your first choice. He certainly isn’t my first choice either. But if you say you don’t want Harbaugh and then back Wilks… I mean come on. 

[kungfoodude]

10 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

He isn’t going to give up what he has in Michigan. Full control. That’s something we should never give a HC right away or possibly ever. He is a hell of a coach though. The players getting upset with him is overblown and probably Niners ownership trying to save face after firing a great HC.

Well he flirted with the Vikings last year and his buyout is very low.

Make no mistake, it is just a matter of time before he is back in the NFL and his contract at Michigan was structured to make that happen. 

He just happens to have the luxury of being able to be pretty picky.

[Sgt Schultz]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Well he flirted with the Vikings last year and his buyout is very low.

Make no mistake, it is just a matter of time before he is back in the NFL and his contract at Michigan was structured to make that happen. 

He just happens to have the luxury of being able to be pretty picky.

For now, he has a two-game winning streak against Ohio State.  That hasn't happened since Lloyd Carr was the coach in 2000 & 01.  After wanting to name a campus men's room (or maybe just a stall) after him two years ago, they probably eyeing up a cathedral to name after him now.

Before that, OSU won 15 of 16 (including a 37-7 win in 2010 later vacated, but the beating still happened).  Michigan hasn't won three in a row against OSU since '95-'97.  If he does that, they may want to name one of the Great Lakes after him.  After that, Mt. Rushmore.

Barring some scandal his stock in Ann Arbor is pretty good right now.  Hell, he probably can't even pay for his own drinks these days.

[kungfoodude]

18 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

For now, he has a two-game winning streak against Ohio State.  That hasn't happened since Lloyd Carr was the coach in 2000 & 01.  After wanting to name a campus men's room (or maybe just a stall) after him two years ago, they probably eyeing up a cathedral to name after him now.

Before that, OSU won 15 of 16 (including a 37-7 win in 2010 later vacated, but the beating still happened).  Michigan hasn't won three in a row against OSU since '95-'97.  If he does that, they may want to name one of the Great Lakes after him.  After that, Mt. Rushmore.

Barring some scandal his stock in Ann Arbor is pretty good right now.  Hell, he probably can't even pay for his own drinks these days.

Oh,  if he wins a NC this season his new contract might be something that would make most NFL teams pause. 

[Sgt Schultz]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Oh,  if he wins a NC this season his new contract might be something that would make most NFL teams pause. 

Michigan airports, train stations, government buildings, a dormitory, and perhaps Ann Arbor itself will be renamed in his honor.  There will be a Michigan state holiday in his name.  And probably a bank or two, just because most of their assets will be in his name from that contract.

The last time Michigan was a NC was '97, as a co-champ with Nebraska.  The last time they were the consensus NC was 1947. 

[KatsAzz]

On 12/4/2022 at 12:40 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Lots of players look up to and talk to Deion Sanders. And given his success coaching in college it's probably not smart to discount what he's saying regarding coaching given his experience on both sides of that coin.

This is some long sighted thinking but if  Deion Sanders has continued success coaching in college and serves a year or two in the NFL as an asst. coach, I could see him eventually win a head coaching job.

Deion is someone players look up to and has a sort of personality that rubs off on a team he's connected with.

[LinvilleGorge]

22 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

This is some long sighted thinking but if  Deion Sanders has continued success coaching in college and serves a year or two in the NFL as an asst. coach, I could see him eventually win a head coaching job.

Deion is someone players look up to and has a sort of personality that rubs off on a team he's connected with.

His intro at Colorado was a rough one. Basically told all the kids he was bringing his guys in, his son was gonna be the QB, and they can all hit the transfer portal for all he cares.