Rarely mentioned QB option for next year: Trade for Matt Leinart

[SOJA]

As much as I want a guy with potential this is not going to happen. A who would we trade for him Peppers? That would be an awfully lopsided deal unless we got picks too and even then were putting our faith in an unproven backup. I would suggest Josh Johnson. We wouldn't have to give up as much for him and if he doesn't pan out he at least could run the wildcat/passing attack for five plays a game. I nominate keeping the qbs we have now, but drafting one in the second round, or trading up if a good one (Bradfor, Clausen, Locker) falls. I have my doubts about Colt McCoy, then again watch him be great. Jason Campbell is another name floating around, I don't like him and don't think he is the answer to the future.

[SOJA]

Also why in the world would the Cardinals trade for another wide reciever? That would be absolutely absurd if they were thinking about getting Marshall. Anyways if Anquan Boldin becomes available this offseason...Get him!!! Of course this all depends on the Peppers situation... will our problems ever end?!?!?

[Nu Guns]

Leinart , Quinn and Young.

Young first obviously....looks like he has truned things around.

Scary back field we would have, but lets see how he does rest the season.

Quinn- Peyton wouldnt look good on the Browns. Bring him in let him compete, but price tag has to be shortened. If wants a starting job, take a pay cut.

Leinart- he is looking better...again need a bargain....he is not worth big bucks yet

[Mr. Scot]

Matt Leinart has shown as much as quarterbacks like Matt Schaub and Kyle Orton had before teams traded for them. If you think that he's a better quarterback than the free agent quarterbacks and the second-round potential rookie quarterbacks out there and the Cards are willing to do it, why not trade for Leinart if the price is right?

And it's unfair to hold his benching against him. He was only in his second year and got benched in favor of an MVP candidate. How many quarterbacks are doing great their second year? How was Jake Delhomme doing his second year in the league?

Warner wasn't an MVP candidate when Leinart was benched for him. He was a reclamation project that many thought was on his last legs. And yeah, I'd rather have a guy with no record in the league than a guy who blew it.

As to the comparisons, Orton had a solid, though unspectacular, year with the Bears prior to his acquisition and then became part of a trade involving Jay Cutler. Not a good comparison.

Schaub hadn't done anything much, positive or negative, and it still took two second round picks to get him just based on potential. Do you want to give up something like that to get Leinart, because given that Warner is up there in age and there's no other successor behind him (unless you think Brian St Pierre is an undiscovered gem), you can bet the Cardinals aren't going to put Leinart up for a bargain price.

In short, we'd likely have to give up our second rounder (at least) to get Leinart, and in a year when we have no first rounder and multiple needs. All that for a quarterback that's flopped before in the hope that he's better now.

Not interested. Someone may trade for him next year, but it shouldn't be us.

[pantherfan81]

A lot of the same peeps who are burying leinart are backing the 2nd Vince Young experiment. Don't talk a big game for all underused qbs when your fav isn't the one that's hot right a the moment. Dumbshits

[Kevin Greene]

Despite having arguably the best receiving tandem in the league, playing badly enough that the team would rather go with Kurt Warner (a decision that was made before Warner had truly re-established himself).

Leinart is one of those really bad trade options - similar to Quinn - because he hasn't really shown anything to prove that he can be a franchise QB. But because he was a high pick and still has "plenty of potential" the team trading him would want more in return than he's realistically worth.

Those are the kind of trades a GM makes if he's in a good position to gamble.

I don't think we're in that position.

Good point, plus Leinart played well his last start. Add to that Warner was badly shaken by last years Boldin injury, and now having concussion problems- he could choose to walk away at any time. Although Warner has a year left on his contract I think the Cards have long term plans for Leinart that may come to fruition sooner than later.

[guyinchesapeake]

I don't think trading Peppers for Leinart straight up is such a lop sided deal. I seriously doubt that the Cards would throw in picks as well, given Pep's inconsistency in recent years and his well known lack of a work ethic. It's no accident we didn't get any real attention for him this past off season. I think such a deal, Pep for Leinart, is worth looking at. I'd do it in a heartbeat. I just don't think the Cards would go for it.

The current Sporting News reports that the present crop of QB prospects who may be available for the draft (some are underclassmen who may not go pro) is weak overall, this according to NFL scouts who offered their evaluations of them and other offensive positions. Leinart has a few years under his belt now. For those who argue that we need receiver help, he was a teammate of Jarrett's, and Jarrett was a consistent target for him at USC, maybe that magic could be re-ignited. Any QB coming here will have a good running game available, which is always a plus.

A good question to ask, what else would the 'Cats be willing to give up if Pep wasn't part of a deal? Or if Pep vetoed a trade there, which (I believe) players who are tagged with the franchise label can do? Leinart could be an attractive candidate for the QB job here. Jake was a backup we went after pretty hard before the '03 season. It's happened before, why not again?

[Jangler]

I`d say there are reasons why it`s rarely mentioned.

Such as...?

he sucks

[ClawOn]

Have you watched Leinart throw? He looks like a 12-year old girl struggling with a shotput.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Warner wasn't an MVP candidate when Leinart was benched for him. He was a reclamation project that many thought was on his last legs. And yeah, I'd rather have a guy with no record in the league than a guy who blew it.

As to the comparisons, Orton had a solid, though unspectacular, year with the Bears prior to his acquisition and then became part of a trade involving Jay Cutler. Not a good comparison.

Schaub hadn't done anything much, positive or negative, and it still took two second round picks to get him just based on potential. Do you want to give up something like that to get Leinart, because given that Warner is up there in age and there's no other successor behind him (unless you think Brian St Pierre is an undiscovered gem), you can bet the Cardinals aren't going to put Leinart up for a bargain price.

In short, we'd likely have to give up our second rounder (at least) to get Leinart, and in a year when we have no first rounder and multiple needs. All that for a quarterback that's flopped before in the hope that he's better now.

Not interested. Someone may trade for him next year, but it shouldn't be us.

He "blew it" during his rookie year and got benched. If you were running the Tennessee Titans, I'm sure Kerry Collins would still be starting over Vince Young because VY had some struggles earlier in his career.

Ask Bears fans about how he played in 2008: There's a reason that they were willing to give up so much to get rid of him.

As for priceyness, I admit that we don't need to be trading even more draft picks. But if we can ship a Julius Peppers out or Jonathan Stewart, guys with real trade value on our team that Arizona would be happy to have, I think it would be worth it.

And the flippant attitude of "not interested" is why we still have Jake Delhomme this year. Like Hurney and Fox, you're paralyzed at the thought of bringing in another quarterback because of potential flaws he might have. You and most of the rest of this fanbase seem to be afraid of possibly having a great quarterback.

[Mr. Scot]

He "blew it" during his rookie year and got benched. If you were running the Tennessee Titans, I'm sure Kerry Collins would still be starting over Vince Young because VY had some struggles earlier in his career.

Ask Bears fans about how he played in 2008: There's a reason that they were willing to give up so much to get rid of him.

As for priceyness, I admit that we don't need to be trading even more draft picks. But if we can ship a Julius Peppers out or Jonathan Stewart, guys with real trade value on our team that Arizona would be happy to have, I think it would be worth it.

And the flippant attitude of "not interested" is why we still have Jake Delhomme this year. Like Hurney and Fox, you're paralyzed at the thought of bringing in another quarterback because of potential flaws he might have. You and most of the rest of this fanbase seem to be afraid of possibly having a great quarterback.

If I were running the Titans, I'd have benched Collins sooner.

As to Orton, how bout if I ask Brian Urlacher? Or Bronco fans this season, for that matter?

Trading Peppers or Stewart, guys who have actually had good success, for a guy who's part flop and part "potential" would be ridiculously dumb.

And for the record, I'm very interested in upgrading the QB position, but not interested in Leinart. Nor am I interested in Derek Anderson, Chris Simms, Alex Smith, Rex Grossman or JaMarcus Russell. If you're shortsighted enough to believe that just anybody is automatic improvement, it's a good thing you're not our GM.

[pantherdad]

Me and a friend were talking about the possibilty of bring Mark Bulger in during the off-season. word is he is gonna get phased out of St. Louis, and he would come kinda cheap. he is younger than delhomme, but more concussion prone, but i always thought he was a pretty accurate passer.

bring him in, along with a 2nd or 3rd or third round QB pick-up in the draft, and if Matt Moore shows some upside in these last 5 games, well, the QB situation might be shored up, for a good price. I think with that group of guys right there, it would make for a nice battle in training camp.

[OneBadassCat]

Me and a friend were talking about the possibilty of bring Mark Bulger in during the off-season. word is he is gonna get phased out of St. Louis, and he would come kinda cheap. he is younger than delhomme, but more concussion prone, but i always thought he was a pretty accurate passer.

bring him in, along with a 2nd or 3rd or third round QB pick-up in the draft, and if Matt Moore shows some upside in these last 5 games, well, the QB situation might be shored up, for a good price. I think with that group of guys right there, it would make for a nice battle in training camp.

Buldger wouldn't be a bad stop gap. I'm still holding out hope for Matt Moore though.

[Mr. Scot]

Me and a friend were talking about the possibilty of bring Mark Bulger in during the off-season. word is he is gonna get phased out of St. Louis, and he would come kinda cheap. he is younger than delhomme, but more concussion prone, but i always thought he was a pretty accurate passer.

bring him in, along with a 2nd or 3rd or third round QB pick-up in the draft, and if Matt Moore shows some upside in these last 5 games, well, the QB situation might be shored up, for a good price. I think with that group of guys right there, it would make for a nice battle in training camp.

That I could get behind :thumbsup:

My pipe dream is that the Jags draft The Golden Calf of Bristol and release David Garrard. I expect though that even if they get The Golden Calf of Bristol, Garrard stays.

Bulger is more realistic, and I'd happily take him as a placeholder while we groomed a draftee.

Buldger wouldn't be a bad stop gap. I'm still holding out hope for Matt Moore though.

That would be a best case scenario. I'm just not optimistic enough to be confident of it yet.

(the next few weeks should tell the tale)