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33 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Lance was a good passer in college. His biggest issue in the talent level gap between his conference and the NFL IMO. Give him some time…

As I recall, he hardly ever passed in college.

And hate to say it, but I've heard"jjust give them time" going all the way back to Michael Vick needing X years to learn the West Coast Offense.

It's just a poor strategy.

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2 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

We could start a new tradition on draft day.  Whenever a QB is picked in the first round, they go to the podium, shake the commissioner's hand, and get two jerseys.  One from the team that drafted them, and then a Panthers' jersey.

You're in rare form today. And why the hell not? The Thanksgiving holiday is almost upon us. Let's relax, reflect and have some laughs. 

I realize that reality for most of us probably sunk in many moons ago, but today the reality of Panthers fandom spilleth over. 

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29 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

But an article just recently said that Levis is a better prospect than Young or Stroud because he played with less talent around him (sarcasm)! Lance and Wilson had the "tools" to succeed but they also didn't lead their programs to bowl wins/championships.  At least Young, Stroud, Fields have played meaningful high stakes games in their collegiate careers. 

To be fair, Lance has led his team to an FCS championship.

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22 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

If we miss on the top 2 QBs this draft, I think trading back is the right move. Stack picks and draft a Richardson/Duggan/Penix type with one of our 2nd rounders. Let them battle with Corral next year and if the results are terrible, trade the farm for Drake Maye or Caleb Williams.

The problem is the team with Pick #1 next year (assuming it is not us) likely sucks and needs a QB.  They will not be trading that top pick for anything.

If we are in a position to draft Young, then I would do it.  Otherwise, get a late first/second round type guy to compete with Corral and use the first on Michael Mayer, the TE from ND. 

Everyone focuses on the QB position, and rightly so, but if you look at most of the most recent superb owl winners, you see dominating TE play - Gronkowski, Kelce, Ertz.  We really need that guy to help our young QBs along.

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38 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

It might be the right move but I doubt it happens for a ton of reasons.   For starters you need a partner that is going to give up the farm for your pick and more times then not its for a qb.  I think if they like a Richardson/Duggan/Penix type player they will just pick them and not get cute.  The combine is going to be extra interesting for us this year. 

In the scenario I was envisioning, we have pick #3-5 and QBs are taken 1&2. If that's the case, someone will put together a trade package for Anderson or Carter. Then we have to consider taking them or trading back setting up a big move for a QB next year.

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