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9 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

I'm saying Lamar with his abilities is not going to win a Superbowl. 

Running from the QB position in the playoffs has never been fully successful. 

It just gets harder to depend on your legs for 30 percent of your production against good teams. They will take that away and you are done.

 

I thought he would make a leap by now but he hasn't. He's pretty much the same guy he's always been.

You should really stop trying to talk about Lamar like you aren't comically biased in this discussion. You would keep giving atrocious QB's like Sam Darnold chances if you had roster control.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

You should really stop trying to talk about Lamar like you aren't comically biased in this discussion. You would keep giving atrocious QB's like Sam Darnold chances if you had roster control.

Sometimes I wonder how your brain generates the power to breathe. 

I never wanted Sam. I never wanted Teddy. I never wanted Baker.

I only said we have thrown money at Sam we can't get back. We might as roll with him this year and either get the number one pick or go to the playoffs.

What did they do? Wasted the 19mil. Brought in Baker didn’t make the playoffs nor got the number one pick. Lost a pick and wasted more money.

Guys I take over Lamar assuming healthy if I wanted to make a run next year Ala Bucs pre Brady.

Not in any order

Mahomes

Allen

Rogers

Brady

Stafford

Herbert

Burrow

Looking like Jimmy G

Hurts

Tua

Maybe Dak

 

On same level as Lamar 

Cousins 

Tannehill

Lawrence

Russ altho this just could be a one off down year historically I take Russ all day long

 

Guys I wouldn't take over Lamar

Fields

Pickett

Sam

Winston

Mariota 

Jones

Wilson

Heineke altho he's moving up

Smith

Brissette 

Kyler

 

 

So no I don't think he's worth the money or the draft picks when he's equal to or worse than half the league 

 

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12 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Sometimes I wonder how your brain generates the power to breathe. 

I never wanted Sam. I never wanted Teddy. I never wanted Baker.

I only said we have thrown money at Sam we can't get back. We might as roll with him this year and either get the number one pick or go to the playoffs.

What did they do? Wasted the 19mil. Brought in Baker didn’t make the playoffs nor got the number one pick. Lost a pick and wasted more money.

Guys I take over Lamar assuming healthy if I wanted to make a run next year Ala Bucs pre Brady.

Not in any order

Mahomes

Allen

Rogers

Brady

Stafford

Herbert

Burrow

Looking like Jimmy G

Hurts

Tua

Maybe Dak

 

On same level as Lamar 

Cousins 

Tannehill

Lawrence

Russ altho this just could be a one off down year historically I take Russ all day long

 

Guys I wouldn't take over Lamar

Fields

Pickett

Sam

Winston

Mariota 

Jones

Wilson

Heineke altho he's moving up

Smith

Brissette 

Kyler

 

 

So no I don't think he's worth the money or the draft picks when he's equal to or worse than half the league 

 

I'm not trying to be rude but you're possibly certifiable if you think Cousins is as good as Lamar Jackson. Look at the talent pool at QB in the NFC compared to the AFC. You've got fading hall of famers in Brady Rodgers and Stafford. When guys like Kirk Cousins and even Taylor Heinicke can fool people from time to time that says it all. Look at what the Eagles are doing with Hurts and what the Seahawks are doing with Geno Smith. Cousins would get eaten alive going up against Mahomes Allen and Burrow. On the flip side I think with the right team and coach Jackson would be heading to the conference championship in the NFC. But we don't agree that's okay.

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8 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'm not trying to be rude but you're possibly certifiable if you think Cousins is as good as Lamar Jackson. Look at the talent pool at QB in the NFC compared to the AFC. You've got fading hall of famers in Brady Rodgers and Stafford. When guys like Kirk Cousins and even Taylor Heinicke can fool people from time to time that says it all. Look at what the Eagles are doing with Hurts and what the Seahawks are doing with Geno Smith. Cousins would get eaten alive going up against Mahomes Allen and Burrow. On the flip side I think with the right team and coach Jackson would be heading to the conference championship in the NFC. But we don't agree that's okay.

If he gets to the Superbowl in the NFC do you see him beating Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert if it comes down to it?

 

Do you really see him going 80 90 yards with only 2 min or less in the Superbowl to win or tie?

That's my litmus test. Do I believe this guy can make the game winning drive in the Superbowl. That's where my evaluation begins. 

If the answer is no I don't want to draft him or sign him. 

Can he get to that point someday? Possibly but he hasn't shown it to me yet.

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10 hours ago, frankw said:

I'm not trying to be rude but you're possibly certifiable if you think Cousins is as good as Lamar Jackson. Look at the talent pool at QB in the NFC compared to the AFC. You've got fading hall of famers in Brady Rodgers and Stafford. When guys like Kirk Cousins and even Taylor Heinicke can fool people from time to time that says it all. Look at what the Eagles are doing with Hurts and what the Seahawks are doing with Geno Smith. Cousins would get eaten alive going up against Mahomes Allen and Burrow. On the flip side I think with the right team and coach Jackson would be heading to the conference championship in the NFC. But we don't agree that's okay.

A fun game to play is swapping QBs on the same rosters. Imagine Lamar with Jefferson, Thielen, Hockenson, and Cook. No imagine Cousins with Andrews and…. Burks??? Lamar IS the Ravens offense and unfortunately all some people can do is read off stats Ave assume they know what they are talking about without any context. 

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7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

A fun game to play is swapping QBs on the same rosters. Imagine Lamar with Jefferson, Thielen, Hockenson, and Cook. No imagine Cousins with Andrews and…. Burks??? Lamar IS the Ravens offense and unfortunately all some people can do is read off stats Ave assume they know what they are talking about without any context. 

All I know is that if we had a qb worth a f*ck we would have beaten the brakes off the Ravens. 

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8 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

 unfortunately all some people can do is read off stats Ave assume they know what they are talking about without any context. 

You'd think as Panthers fans we'd be more weary of this considering this very same thing happened with Cam during the majority of his prime by outsiders.

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10 hours ago, Catsfan69 said:

If he gets to the Superbowl in the NFC do you see him beating Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert if it comes down to it?

 

Do you really see him going 80 90 yards with only 2 min or less in the Superbowl to win or tie?

That's my litmus test. Do I believe this guy can make the game winning drive in the Superbowl. That's where my evaluation begins. 

If the answer is no I don't want to draft him or sign him. 

Can he get to that point someday? Possibly but he hasn't shown it to me yet.

i must say, this post confuses me. Lamar has Beaten Mahomes, Burrow and Herbert already.

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42 minutes ago, Smohn Jith said:

i must say, this post confuses me. Lamar has Beaten Mahomes, Burrow and Herbert already.

In the playoffs he's beaten all of them?

Nope he hasn't. 

 

And the post was in response to someone projecting him on our team and us winning the Superbowl. Where he would likely face Mahomes Allen or Burrow on the biggest stage.

 

Let's see what are his playoff stats.

In the playoffs his completion percentage drops to 55.9% abysmal 

Yds per game a whopping 225 meh

Passer rating 68.3 that's pathetic 

3 td and 5 ints.  That's awful 

He has 1 wildcard round win.

 

 

Yeah he's worse in the playoffs. 

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6 hours ago, Catsfan69 said:

In the playoffs he's beaten all of them?

Nope he hasn't. 

 

And the post was in response to someone projecting him on our team and us winning the Superbowl. Where he would likely face Mahomes Allen or Burrow on the biggest stage.

 

Let's see what are his playoff stats.

In the playoffs his completion percentage drops to 55.9% abysmal 

Yds per game a whopping 225 meh

Passer rating 68.3 that's pathetic 

3 td and 5 ints.  That's awful 

He has 1 wildcard round win.

 

 

Yeah he's worse in the playoffs. 

Now do Herbert’s playoff stats since you have him rated higher, oh wait….

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