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PJ has sprain. Baker to start.

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3 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Bingo and why Stroud CERTAINLY and likely Young will be off the board by our pick after 2-4 more wins.  So we are going to hang our hat on Levis/Hooker and Corral?  Nah, won't happen.  So if you loath Baker and/or Sam, sorry, people might want to prepare themselves for one of them to be back.

I can see the preseason roster looking something like this (NOT a depth chart): Baker/Sam, Corral, PJ and rookie QB.

 

How is it that you know Stroud or Young will be such a success if we get the first couple picks? 

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8 minutes ago, YourLastThought said:

How is it that you know Stroud or Young will be such a success if we get the first couple picks? 

I don't, but everyone around here assumes they would be an instant success.  I have my doubts about both.  Honestly, I hope we are out of range of both so it's a moot point.  I want to move back (no lower than about pick #12) and accumulate more picks.

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51 minutes ago, AlphabetsEnd said:

I'd like to believe you, but Mixon was not running well until he played Carolina. Lamar's passing has fallen off, for sure. 

Is Andrews hurt? He is a serious weapon, and our second level defense has not been great. and it'd go a long way to keeping it closer if he's not a factor. 

Andrews sat out the Saints game, but has the potential to return this week. Be sure to check his practice participation throughout the week. 

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Curious for those still wondering if Mayfield/Darnold can become a starter…

If they lead us to a winning record over our last 7 games and look like an average starting QB (best possible scenario), what kind of contract you offering them?

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26 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Curious for those still wondering if Mayfield/Darnold can become a starter…

If they lead us to a winning record over our last 7 games and look like an average starting QB (best possible scenario), what kind of contract you offering them?

I still think Baker can be a good, serviceable quarterback. I don't think he can be the quarterback that could win a shootout against high scoring offenses like the Chiefs. He needs an elite defense behind him. I could see us offering him 2 yr/ 25- 30 million, take it or leave. 

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11 minutes ago, Cam Lawter said:

I still think Baker can be a good, serviceable quarterback. I don't think he can be the quarterback that could win a shootout against high scoring offenses like the Chiefs. He needs an elite defense behind him. I could see us offering him 2 yr/ 25- 30 million, take it or leave. 

I think that’s too expensive even if he shows well over the end of the season. 
 

The Steelers gave Trubisky 2 years, ~14 million. That would be acceptable imo, and then still draft a QB to develop.

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2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I think that’s too expensive even if he shows well over the end of the season. 
 

The Steelers gave Trubisky 2 years, ~14 million. That would be acceptable imo, and then still draft a QB to develop.

Yeah I was thinking $5M unless he balls out for a few games now that Rhule is gone, and it can get in the $7-10 range that guys like Dalton and Teddy are getting recently. Jimmy G is getting around $7M with another $6M possible in incentives

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1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

I don't, but everyone around here assumes they would be an instant success.  I have my doubts about both.  Honestly, I hope we are out of range of both so it's a moot point.  I want to move back (no lower than about pick #12) and accumulate more picks.

Apparently you and I are on the same page. I am blown away by how many assume those two are a guaranteed sure thing just because they will go 1 or 2 overall. I don't buy it at all and think everyone is nuts. I don't care if we win though also as I believe just as a good a prospect QB could be found later but would be nice to have a higher pick and trade back for some great extra picks.

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they also need to avoid trading down, given the statistical and indisputable truth that the farther down the board you go the more likely a player is to fail, they need to avoid picking low

also they need to avoid picking high because those players may not be successful either

if I had my way the team wouldn’t draft anyone so we didn’t have to worry about it

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6 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

I'd throw Sam in.  Catch 'em off guard.

I have a feeling Wilkes may do that but not this week. Mayfield has played more he gets the nod. 
I want to watch Darnold if only to convince myself there is no way he with him. With the line, with the running game, all that stuff. 
 

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