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If he were to be shopped this off-season , would you pick up the phone?

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1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Same as I was thinking. The numbers aren't cost prohibitive. Nothing higher than a third and something later maybe.

That's a screwy situation that Raiders players are in. McDaniels is on the hot seat, and there are always questions of stability when the coach is trending to be fired. I don't know that there's anything better than Carr though, so he's probably safer than any of them. I think that it would be more likely that he'd ask for a release.

Agreed, I don't think they'd trade him unless he requested out. He's a guy you really don't want to give away since there's a good chance you won't find anything out there better any time soon. Honestly I'd consider him a selling point for prospective coaches.

I like Carr, he's wayyyyy more legit than Teddy, Sam, Baker. But I'm also a little sick of taking other teams' scraps. I've seen people compare Carr to Stafford, just needing to get out of a terrible team but I don't think Carr is quite on that level (when Stafford was healthy anyways) and likely won't lead a team to a SB win. Not the biggest fan of giving up more draft capital for a vet QB, and while his contract wouldn't cripple us or hamstring us in the mid/long term, the cap hits are probably a bit high if he's on the team.

I would completely defer to the new HC, especially if it's a guy I want like Harbaugh, Payton, Steichen. If they wanted Carr and the plan was for him to be our Andy Reid era Alex Smith, then by all means pull the trigger. Otherwise I say just take best QB available this draft and roll with him (then rinse and repeat every 2-3 years until we find a legit franchise QB). Maybe we could do both if the new HC wants to let the rookie sit like Reid did with Mahomes and some other coaches have done with young QBs.

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If the raiders continue to suck, they will end up with the 1st or 2nd pick.  They may want to re-set with Stroud or Young.  Carr might be available for a 2nd.  I think I would do that and let Corral learn.

We'll be picking somewhere around 5-10.  Get a stud WR or DE in the first and call it a day.

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2 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

I dont understand how he has slipped.... he has thrown 11 TDs to 2 INTs over the last 8 games with a 89 QBR and over 65% completion percentage. McDaniels is destroying yet another franchise with his system. I didnt think McD would be bad again... thats a different topic. 

Do you have examples that I could review of Carr slipping? Are we sure it's not the system?

Carr has won zero close games in 2022. Link

Even with their awful HC choice this year that stat stands out above the 1 300 yard game and no 3 TD games this year. I don't think he is awful and I would be fine in a couple of situations with us picking him up as a FA but I don't want to spend any draft capital on him. 

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2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Carr has won zero close games in 2022. Link

Even with their awful HC choice this year that stat stands out above the 1 300 yard game and no 3 TD games this year. I don't think he is awful and I would be fine in a couple of situations with us picking him up as a FA but I don't want to spend any draft capital on him. 

So I guess the Raiders fielding the worst defense in the NFL doesnt play a role here?

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3 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

I'd at least pick up the phone.

Absolutely.  In on every deal.  As a bridge quarterback to a future draft pick, we could become competitive almost immediately and he would also be an excellent mentor to the eventual future QB of the team.  Cap friendly contract is a bonus; what’s not to like?

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2 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

Absolutely.  In on every deal.  As a bridge quarterback to a future draft pick, we could become competitive almost immediately and he would also be an excellent mentor to the eventual future QB of the team.  Cap friendly contract is a bonus; what’s not to like?

Carr might also make Carolina a more attractive place for a new head coach

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Which is fine if you believe in his talent and your ability to develop him. I just don't think you can count on him playing as a rookie. This isn't a Cam Newton situation. He's a lot rawer than that.

 

I dont know bro Cam was raw as fug his first season.   Without looking at his stats I think year 3 was when he exploded

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I dont know bro Cam was raw as fug his first season.   Without looking at his stats I think year 3 was when he exploded

I'd say Cam was more polished than Anthony Richardson. Cam's final year he threw for almost 3k yards and had 30 passing TDs to 7 INTs at 66% completion rate.

 

 

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