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Good analysis on Bryce Young vs LSU


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52 minutes ago, Waldo said:

He is so damn tiny. Great vision but he scares the hell out of me. I would be happy to snag a DE and then trade back up into the 1st with our 2nds for him. He looks like he is 5'10" at best and under 180 lbs lol. The combine measurements is going to be his biggest hurdle for him with his skills. Could be a legit NFL starter or a guy who peaked in school.

lol.  Trading back into the 1st for young.  Keep dreaming he will probably be gone before our 1st selection

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3 hours ago, Icege said:

I've grown okay with the idea of gambling a 1st on Young despite his size, but I don't think any of the other QBs would be worth the swing. 😕

It's night and day compared to other prospects though how well he sees the field and goes through his progressions.

I can talk myself into Stroud at some level. I do prefer Young, though. Even though he's the size the Gramatica Bros., his skill level is elite.

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7 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

A QB who could take a beating was important when the o-line was paper mache. We need someone who can pass and this dude has elite accuracy.

Exactly, we are making strides in o-line consistency for the first time since the early 2000s. As long as he doesn't come in there at 5'9", I wouldn't be opposed. I'd rather take him and he explode into thin air from a hit than take Will Levis. 

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11 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Good Video.  Makes me more comfortable about Young.  You can have all the tools, ie J. Russell, but if you can't process the field and make the correct decision, you'll never make it in the NFL.  I'd rather have a 6 foot QB that can process than a 6"4" physical specimen but can't read the field. 

Can we take Young's brain and put it in Sam Darnold's body?

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2 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

Exactly, we are making strides in o-line consistency for the first time since the early 2000s. As long as he doesn't come in there at 5'9", I wouldn't be opposed. I'd rather take him and he explode into thin air from a hit than take Will Levis. 

McShay says he is 5'10'' and recently weighed 186.  But at the combine, it is possible he is 5'9''...won't be an easy choice, but if he's there and our new staff says take him, I won't say a word...everyone knows his size is a concern, and everyone knows you ain't winning till you get a QB.  

 

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