Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

What’s your 2023 QB big board (including Corral)

Wundrbread33

By Wundrbread33,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
4 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

What game was that? Tape?

Go back and watch all of his preseason work. He had one good throw which was ok a swing route to a RB. Everything else he basically looked like a fan who won a drawing to play QB that day.

I know you like the guy and hell I had him as my #2 QB in the draft, but damn... he looked flat out awful.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Go back and watch all of his preseason work. He had one good throw which was ok a swing route to a RB. Everything else he basically looked like a fan who won a drawing to play QB that day.

I know you like the guy and hell I had him as my #2 QB in the draft, but damn... he looked flat out awful.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ForJimmy Grand Master

ForJimmy

Posted
Posted

I mean the only negative I hear about Stroud is he has too much talent around him. That’s not something he can control and isn’t really a negative as much as a question mark. I believe he has been playing without his top WR these past few games also (granted he has plenty of talent around him). 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Wundrbread33 Grand Master

Wundrbread33

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)

I think it’s safe to say that there are people who give great weight to Corral’s 3 quarters of preseason play, and see the results as being on him, and there is another group who either don’t place much weight on it, or simply look deeply at the context of the situation (or spreading blame to coaching, oline, reps, etc).

 

And at this point, there’s no convincing the other side they are right or wrong. 

Edited by Wundrbread33
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
10 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I think it’s safe to say that there are people who give great weight to Corral’s 3 quarters of preseason play, and see the results as being on him, and there is another group who either don’t place much weight on it, or simply look deeply at the context of the situation (or spreading blame to coaching, oline, reps, etc).

 

And at this point, there’s no convincing the other side they are right or wrong. 

But it doesn't matter who is right or wrong because come April there will be 2 new qbs on the roster.  Everyone agrees rhule fuged this kid but his chances of making an impact on this team is pretty nil at the moment even if he is good

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SmokinwithWilly Grand Master

SmokinwithWilly

Posted
Posted
46 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Go back and watch all of his preseason work. He had one good throw which was ok a swing route to a RB. Everything else he basically looked like a fan who won a drawing to play QB that day.

I know you like the guy and hell I had him as my #2 QB in the draft, but damn... he looked flat out awful.

I have a hard time with anything the guy did in preseason as a preview to what he can do. Matt Rhule was god awful and put no one in a position to have any success. Icky, Bozeman, BC, QB competition, it was all god awful.  Getting mental reps doesn't mean squat. He needed to be practicing live reps to gain experience and adjust to NFL player speed. That's how you develop QBs. At this point, I see him as a 3rd round rookie since he never made it through TC and preseason. All I ever hoped is he might be a capable backup at some point and possibly surprise us with some starter potential. I don't expect much from him going forward or that he will even have any shot as a starter. The whole situation is one big poo stain. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I have a hard time with anything the guy did in preseason as a preview to what he can do. Matt Rhule was god awful and put no one in a position to have any success. Icky, Bozeman, BC, QB competition, it was all god awful.  Getting mental reps doesn't mean squat. He needed to be practicing live reps to gain experience and adjust to NFL player speed. That's how you develop QBs. At this point, I see him as a 3rd round rookie since he never made it through TC and preseason. All I ever hoped is he might be a capable backup at some point and possibly surprise us with some starter potential. I don't expect much from him going forward or that he will even have any shot as a starter. The whole situation is one big poo stain. 

If you're the next staff though, what else do you have to go off of? You're gonna watch his college tape and you're going to watch those preseason snaps.

You're going to narrow your potential HC list substantially if you tie them to Matt Corral. That's why it won't happen.

  • Pie 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SmokinwithWilly Grand Master

SmokinwithWilly

Posted
Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you're the next staff though, what else do you have to go off of? You're gonna watch his college tape and you're going to watch those preseason snaps.

You're going to narrow your potential HC list substantially if you tie them to Matt Corral. That's why it won't happen.

I'm not suggesting tie them to MC for a new HC to have him as their starting QB. I'm just saying here's what I got from him based on his limited time last year. It wasn't good, but how often do you get a Dak, RW or TB12? I have no issues drafting a new QB. At best, MC is QB3 for now if PJ hangs around and we draft a new QB. But I also think any HC with any NFL experience is going to look at what Rhule did and shake his head saying WTF. Right now MC is the equivalent of Will Grier to me. 

Edited by SmokinwithWilly
Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm not suggesting tie them to MC for a new HC to have him as their starting QB. I'm just saying here's what I got from him based on his limited time last year. It wasn't good, but how often do you get a Dak, RW or TB12? I have no issues drafting a new QB. At best, MC is QB3 for now if PJ hangs around and we draft a new QB. But I also think any HC with any NFL experience is going to look at what Rhule did and shake his head saying WTF. Right now MC is the equivalent of Will Grier to me. 

Rhule screwed this kid.  Even if he has talent like you say at best he is going into camp, coming off a major injury, as qb 3.  We are signing a vet in Feb.  Drafting a guy in April and those 2 will be light years ahead in regards to the new offense simply based on reps in mini camp etc.   I have to think at best the new staff will bring him along slowly and try not to throw him to the fire as that would not be fair for anyone.   He probably will be #3 all season next year and maybe he can build from there.  I seriously doubt it.  

 

I will reiterate, matt rhule fuged this kid.  It sucks for MC but with his injury and new staff there just isnt any legit path for him to make any sort of meaningful contribution to this team in the near future.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Aussie Tank
      What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?

      By Aussie Tank · Posted

      I don't get the Hunter hate. Just imagine his ceiling if he stopped trying to be this 2way freak and focused on one side of the ball 
    • PNW_PantherMan
      Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?

      By PNW_PantherMan · Posted

      100%.  You have to play the cards that are dealt.  Not the cards you wish were dealt.
    • ColumbusCounty
      Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?

      By ColumbusCounty · Posted

      I'd say its definitely going to be addressed this off-season.  We went into the last draft with a roster of RBs including:  Chubba, Blackshear, and Miles Sanders. We picked Jonathan Brooks in the second and still signed Rashaad Penny afterwards.  Fast forward....One turned into a top 10 back, 1 is injured/out for most if not all the '25 season, 1 retired, 1 will either take a huge paycut or be cut, and the last is a restricted free agent. We brought in Mike Boone as well. Add him to the free agent list also.  We need a physical option.    Which qualifies:  Ashton Jeanty(Boise St): Overall ranked Top 10. Almost 2k yards after contact, 28 tds. Would take our first rounder. My money would be on an NFC East team selecting him. (97.2 PFF run grade) - 121 forced missed tackles.  Omarion Hampton(UNC): Ranked everywhere from 20 - 59 overall. Consensus #2 back after Jeanty. He'll be a second rounder. 1,222 Yards after contact w/ 15 tds.  (90.5 PFF run grade) - 72 forced missed Tackles Kaleb Johnson(Iowa): Ranked from 38 - 69 depending on which media outlet you prefer but generally #3. 2nd/3rd possibly. 1,060 Yards after contact w/ 21 tds.(86.7 PFF run grade)- 66 forced missed tackles Cam Skattebo: Ranked from the 50's - 104. Every mock I do he ends up BPA at some point. 969 Yards after contact w/ 17 tds(92 PFF Run Grade). Probably the best receiving back of the group. 81 forced missed tackles.  If the '24 and '25 draft classes were combined, IMO the rankings would be, in order: Jeanty, Hampton, Brooks, Johnson, Skattebo. I wouldn't take one high but I'd take one for Chubba and Brooks insurance. 
×
×
  • Create New...