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Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also


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8 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

We play Atlanta twice in the next 4 weeks and I’m worried we might win one of those games which will absolutely f*ck us

One of those games coming before the trade deadline. So trading off some of these guys needs to happen asap

CMC, Shaq and I’m listening on Derrick Brown. Rookie deal who is coming into his own. A non pass rushing DT is a luxury we don’t really have a need for right now

You are nuts on Brown.

He's been very good. How many batted passes plus a blocked kick?

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

He's overpaid and we need to get out from under that contract but idk who would offer more than a 4th if we got a 3rd I would be pretty surprised. Some folks are whylin with the total fire sale talk. You still need some kind of team leaders to assert themselves here but I can't blame some guys for looking at other teams after the shitshow Rhule and Fitterer have overseen.

Shaq seems like he gave up on the leadership thing either way

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2 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

You are nuts on Brown.

He's been very good. How many batted passes plus a blocked kick?

Cool?

We are rebuilding. I like Brown, he’s coming into his own but he’ll be on year 4 of his rookie deal next year. I’ll take a 1st rounder + for him. Those picks and cap space not being used on a DT will come in handy when we’re trying to build something around our hopefully franchise QB on a rookie deal

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3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Cool?

We are rebuilding. I like Brown, he’s coming into his own but he’ll be on year 4 of his rookie deal next year. I’ll take a 1st rounder + for him. Those picks and cap space not being used on a DT will come in handy when we’re trying to build something around our hopefully franchise QB on a rookie deal

You can't strip the entire D to build around a QB. What good will that do?

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I really feel like no one is safe on this team, or should be.  Maybe the people on rookie contracts is about it.  And Shaq, if we could get a 2nd I'd be surprised but I'd take later picks and be happy.  He shows flashes but that's about it, just flashes.  He's just not a cornerstone.

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Anyone who's thinking you're getting more than maybe a 4th for Shaq is insane. Front offices are balking at giving up a late 1st for a superstar talent like CMC, why the fug would they give up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for an aging, slightly above average off ball LB? LB is probably tied with RB as the two most devalued positions in football.

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6 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

You can't strip the entire D to build around a QB. What good will that do?

What good will paying a non passing rushing DT a big contract when our hopefully franchise QB is entering year 3 of his rookie deal do?

Brown’s value will never be higher than it is right now. The acquiring team will get him on his rookie deal with a 5th year option

We aren’t going to be competitive next year. Brown will need a new deal by the time we are competitive again if everything goes according to plan. 

Burns will have a new deal then as well. Is it smart to have all that cap space tied up in 2 positions on the DL. Probably not. If Brown was getting to the QB then you’d have an argument 

He has 1 TFL and 0.5 of a sack this season. If someone is willing to give up a 1st rounder plus you have to do it.

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12 minutes ago, Shocker said:

LOL…no other team is taking him and his bloated contract…silly to think otherwise 

We already restructured his contract into bonus money so he'd cost another team like $1M this year, $13M next year but they could just cut him for no loss or extend him if they really wanted to. We get a dead cap of $11M next year if he is gone. Better than paying him $25M

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56 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

We play Atlanta twice in the next 4 weeks and I’m worried we might win one of those games which will absolutely f*ck us

One of those games coming before the trade deadline. So trading off some of these guys needs to happen asap

CMC, Shaq and I’m listening on Derrick Brown. Rookie deal who is coming into his own. A non pass rushing DT is a luxury we don’t really have a need for right now

The Falcons are the best team in the division, we ain’t beating them

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24 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

What good will paying a non passing rushing DT a big contract when our hopefully franchise QB is entering year 3 of his rookie deal do?

Brown’s value will never be higher than it is right now. The acquiring team will get him on his rookie deal with a 5th year option

We aren’t going to be competitive next year. Brown will need a new deal by the time we are competitive again if everything goes according to plan. 

Burns will have a new deal then as well. Is it smart to have all that cap space tied up in 2 positions on the DL. Probably not. If Brown was getting to the QB then you’d have an argument 

He has 1 TFL and 0.5 of a sack this season. If someone is willing to give up a 1st rounder plus you have to do it.

Batted passes count towards his pass rush ability. 

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