Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You thinking a 3rd?  4rth or 5th is my guess.  Probably 5th

I think bc he can be had for so cheap is why it would be a higher pick. It might end up being a 4th and a future 5th/6th. Shaq isnt a bad LB and would be an upgrade for teams looking to win it all this year. 

 

The reason he would potential get a higher pick is because we are eating a lot of dead cap in any trade. So you have to suppliment that with a pick. I think we would be eating around 9-11 million in dead cap. So you backfill that with a cheap player from a draft pick. The rule of offsetting balances would apply here.

 

This is completely just an assumption and using contract trading logic for this scenario. 

[CRA]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I think it might be more that other teams think they're in "fire sale" mode.

They're not, but they'll always listen to see if "an offer they can't refuse" comes down the like.

 

I mean, if you are Shaq, CMC, and dudes like that? 

This is their window to do something.  So if they want a ring and a shot to compete you have to ask out.  Simple as that.  Rebuild is coming and their ages don't align with Carolina being a place they can do anything but collect a check from. 

[TheCasillas]

4 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

Shaq's base next year is ~$12.2m so it's more like $13m for 1.5 seasons. Dead cap doesn't matter honestly, might as well take the poison in this lost year because he's likely to be cut in the offseason if he doesn't take a drastic pay cut anyway.

thanks for calling that out. It was a typo on my side. I meant to put 12 million. I went back and corrected it. Thats a cheap contract for someone of his talent set. It's hard to find a decent pass covering linebacker in the NFL. If Shaq could catch, he would have 3 picks on the year and potentially 2 TDs, haha.

[joemac]

Its TOTALLY not a fire sale, y'all....we're just looking to deal every single player on our roster with any sort of skill and a big cap hit. 

[PantherBoy95]

I've never viewed Shaq as a game changer; but he's been very consistent.  Clearly considered a leader in this group. 

I appreciate him for what he's done since coming in as a rookie, but I don't know if he'll ever be that All-Pro LB that you hope you're getting when you draft a guy.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, joemac said:

Its TOTALLY not a fire sale, y'all....we're just looking to deal every single player on our roster with any sort of skill and a big cap hit. 

Shaq and Robbie are not fire sales.... they are dumping huge contracts and older players.

[*FreeFua*]

This is a no brainer

Should've been doing this sh!t last year with guys like Donte but nope. Idiots thought we were winning the SB

[rayzor]

[LinvilleGorge]

Good. I've been one of the few people saying Shaq absolutely needs to be shopped. I honestly don't even care what we get in return. We just need to unload that contract. He's a JAG and he's paid like a HOFer. I honestly don't know if he's even tradable.

 

[joemac]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Shaq and Robbie are not fire sales.... they are dumping huge contracts and older players.

Shaq, Robbie, CMC, and who knows who else?  Burns? Moore?  

[Panthers Fan 69]

Shaq is an slightly above player that needs an elite player beside him to be really good like TD and Luke. If he would have been drafted in the 2nd or 3rd he would be exactly where he should be but the fact he went in the first he was over drafted. I wish we would have kept bradberry instead.   
 

 

[Sgt Schultz]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think it might be more that other teams think they're in "fire sale" mode.

They're not, but they'll always listen to see if "an offer they can't refuse" comes down the like.

 

Some of these reports are other teams seeing us like a vulture sees a corpse. 

I don't have a problem with Shaq, and he has shown some badly needed leadership (especially tough with our previous brain trust).  He is a decent LB that is starting to creep up in years.

His major issue is his contract.  He's not Lawrence Taylor, but Hurney figured if he paid him like Luke he would become Luke.  The contract issue can be worked out, especially since his next contract may be his last.  But that is up to him and the team, based on what we see in the remaining weeks.

That said, if somebody offers the right price, his contract is the one that garners the evil eye now that RA is gone.

 

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

I predict Robbie Anderson will be the only player we wind up trading 

[TheCasillas]

4 minutes ago, joemac said:

Shaq, Robbie, CMC, and who knows who else?  Burns? Moore?  

Did we publicly announc we were trading burns or Moore? Last that I checked Panthers have been adamant that the only way they are trading CMC is for a haul. 

Edited October 20, 2022 by TheCasillas