Roughing the Passer

[Panther53521]

This morning all the pre-game shows were talking the bad roughing the passer calls on Brady and  Carr. If Brady takes the hit that PJ got, very ref on the field would throw the flag. plus it was helmet to helmet. That’s why everyone is calling out the refs. They need to call it straight down the line. If your star QB gets flags for someone touching them … even a 4th depth chart QB should get the same calls.
 

One of the morning shows, one of the guys said refs used to call after the game and apologize for missing calls, that doesn’t happen anymore.

if the referees that FOX hired to report what they see, says that’s a bad call on national tv …. THAT WAS A TERRIBLE CALL

[Doc Holiday]

6 minutes ago, Panther53521 said:

This morning all the pre-game shows were talking the bad roughing the passer calls on Brady and  Carr. If Brady takes the hit that PJ got, very ref on the field would throw the flag. plus it was helmet to helmet. That’s why everyone is calling out the refs. They need to call it straight down the line. If your star QB gets flags for someone touching them … even a 4th depth chart QB should get the same calls.
 

One of the morning shows, one of the guys said refs used to call after the game and apologize for missing calls, that doesn’t happen anymore.

if the referees that FOX hired to report what they see, says that’s a bad call on national tv …. THAT WAS A TERRIBLE CALL

Only quoting to point out that one of the broadcasters was openly cheering after the hit, calling it a great play.

for a league that’s about safety having a broadcaster cheering a helmet to helmet hit that took the teams QB out is a bad look.

[Thorrez]

Lowered head to initiate contact AND helmet to helmet. Anyone of these is enough in itself.

Just make the call reviewable, or make a sky judge/New York make a 10s call. This is just embarrassing both way right now.

[thennek]

It is very clear how the roughing the passer works in the NFL.  All of the 'star QB's' will get the call every time the defense gets close enough to breathe on them.  If you don't have a 'star QB' the defense can do whatever they want.  If the defense gets within 3-feet of Brady, they will call it.  They might as well play flag football.  

[CRA]

Which makes it even worse is Stafford got that bogus roughing call earlier in the game for a simple tackle.  PJ gets his head tackled…..then after they pull him the announcers are like, interesting it appears there was some contact with the head and they are pulling him.  Not a peep about a blown call. 

I mean we lose either way.   But the CMC slam, the PJ no call, the Stafford call all goes to the show NFL games are fixed to a degree.  The league puts there thumb on the scale all the time.  Can teams overcome it? Sure.  But the Rams needed that win to stay alive in their division and get healthy going into the bye.  NFL sure seemed to put their thumb on the scale to at least do their part in that occurring.  

I don’t even think our media brought the calls up to Wilks

[Zaximus]

The NFL has these type of judgement calls for a reason, and that is to push the momentum of a game the way they see fit.  This is why rules never get cleared up and we'll never really see these things reviewable.

[Snake]

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

Which makes it even worse is Stafford got that bogus roughing call earlier in the game for a simple tackle.  PJ gets his head tackled…..then after they pull him the announcers are like, interesting it appears there was some contact with the head and they are pulling him.  Not a peep about a blown call. 

I mean we lose either way.   But the CMC slam, the PJ no call, the Stafford call all goes to the show NFL games are fixed to a degree.  The league puts there thumb on the scale all the time.  Can teams overcome it? Sure.  But the Rams needed that win to stay alive in their division and get healthy going into the bye.  NFL sure seemed to put their thumb on the scale to at least do their part in that occurring.  

I don’t even think our media brought the calls up to Wilks

It's rigged to keep spreads in the right place. The Rams are a piss poor team needing that amount of help. 

[TheCasillas]

8 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

Only quoting to point out that one of the broadcasters was openly cheering after the hit, calling it a great play.

for a league that’s about safety having a broadcaster cheering a helmet to helmet hit that took the teams QB out is a bad look.

That was Sanchez… the butt fumbler himself 

[Murph]

PJ hasn’t been in the league long enough to get that call

[CRA]

25 minutes ago, Murph said:

PJ hasn’t been in the league long enough to get that call

and frankly, Wilks and the Panthers were treating him like an utter clown.  No way the refs were going to give him any respect.  I mean, you are right, he isn't old enough to get calls.  But if the Panthers weren't even going to show a tad of respect to him the refs were going to treat him like a tackling dummy.  Refs clearly don't view QBs through unbiased eyes. 

[Catsfan69]

They need to roll it back to 1985.

You get two steps after he let's go of the ball.

Head to head legal.

Driving him into the ground legal.

[Catsfan69]

3 hours ago, Thorrez said:

Lowered head to initiate contact AND helmet to helmet. Anyone of these is enough in itself.

Just make the call reviewable, or make a sky judge/New York make a 10s call. This is just embarrassing both way right now.

You do realize that you have to lower the head to male any tackle or block.

You also realize that humans aren't turtles and they can't retract their heads?

That the head sticks out from the body and will always make contact with the other person?

[MillionDollarCam]

The call on Ioannidis was just as bad as the missed call on PJ… it’s getting to the point where it’s becoming painfully clear that at the very least, calls might be manipulated to favor one team rather than another. I don’t think we can dismiss it any longer, it’s becoming borderline Tim Donaghy/NBA level bad.

All we want is consistentcy and when we can’t even get that within the same game, it leads to the precedent that something else might be going on.

[davos]

I couldn't tell if our own coaches or the refs wanted us to lose more yesterday.