So who is better, Stroud or Young?

[davos]

There's things to like about some of these others (I.E. McCall, Penix, Rogers, Duggan, etc.), buuut if I'm being honest, I just don't want to get excited the dudes that aren't at the top of this draft class.  I'd be really interested to see who the NFL scouting rooms think are R1 caliber right now.  

[jb2288]

12 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Arizona is 2-4 at the bottom of their division. 

Kyler Murray was rookie of the year and then 2 pro bowls. That's a dumb cherry picked scenario stat and you know it

[mrcompletely11]

12 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Kyler Murray was rookie of the year and then 2 pro bowls. That's a dumb cherry picked scenario stat and you know it

Teddy Bridgewater was a pro bowler

Baker Mayfield won rookie of the year

[ForJimmy]

15 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Kyler Murray was rookie of the year and then 2 pro bowls. That's a dumb cherry picked scenario stat and you know it

Pro Bowl last year with Mac Jones and Kirk Cousins. He looked good as a rookie and started off hot last year. Teams are learning to try to keep him in the pocket and make him operate from there where his vision is limited. Four years in after signing a big contract and it’s not looking great for him. 

[WOW!!]

17 hours ago, ncfan said:

Stroud has had

the number 10 and 11 overall pick

the guy who set the RoseBowl record and a top 15 pick this year.

and none of those are even the best WR, that’d be Marvin Harrison Jr which is looking to be a Megatron/Julio level prospect.

Young has had 1 1st rd level WR and that was Williams who didn’t make it the whole season.

 

Stroud took hits in the Michigan game, but no where near what Young went though Saturday 

 

What about the running game and Oline in bama.. Does those players not count as weapons??

[Jackie Lee]

I didn't realize Stroud doesn't run at all. Like 1 rush this year

[Wundrbread33]

35 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

What about the running game and Oline in bama.. Does those players not count as weapons??

Anyone arguing Young isn’t surrounded by elite talent is smoking crack. 

[davos]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I didn't realize Stroud doesn't run at all. Like 1 rush this year

Yeah a bit different than their past QBs.  He's been moving around in the pocket, but is strictly passing.  And he goes through his progressions very quickly and smoothly.  Smart and a very fluid processor.  

[Vox]

Bryce Young is just different imo. He never panics in the pocket and is great at improvising when the play breaks down and creates out of structure. The only concern with him is his small frame.

[ncfan]

52 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

What about the running game and Oline in bama.. Does those players not count as weapons??

You mean the OL everyone is saying is the worst in Saban’s history at Bama?

Compared to Ohio State’s, where the Top LT being projected in this draft so happens to be from Ohio State.

[Wundrbread33]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

You mean the OL everyone is saying is the worst in Saban’s history at Bama?

Compared to Ohio State’s, where the Top LT being projected in this draft so happens to be from Ohio State.

Having the worst oline at Bama is like having the least expensive house in the Hamptons.