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ADAM SCHEFTER: Panthers listening to Christian McCaffrey trade offers


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9 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

His takes are all troll coated. You are a rational poster so I'll tend to agree albeit with the sentiment that I don't think he's lost any ability.

 

Frankcompletely won't answer me on how his cap hit is "crippling us" yet won't acknowledge he's advocating to add to a ridiculous dead cap #.

I think its the dead cap and if traded anytime this year, it would all hit at once. something like 27 million. 

Current Contract

Christian McCaffrey signed a 4 year, $64,063,500 contract with the Carolina Panthers, including a $21,500,000 signing bonus, $38,162,500 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $16,015,875. In 2022, McCaffrey will earn a base salary of $1,035,000, a restructure bonus of $7,365,000 and a workout bonus of $200,000, while carrying a cap hit of $8,785,750 and a dead cap value of $27,138,000.

CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $64,063,500 SIGNING BONUS$21,500,000 AVERAGE SALARY$16,015,875 GTD AT SIGN:$30,062,500 TOTAL GTD:$38,162,500 FREE AGENT:2026 / UFA
  BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS  
YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING WORKOUT RESTRUCTURE CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH
2020 Contract details by year 24 $825,000 $6,969,782 - - $7,794,782 $32,732,282 $22,337,274($22,337,274)  
2021 Contract details by year 25 $990,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $1,409,500 $6,899,500  $33,537,500 $8,237,500($30,574,774)  
2022 Contract details by year 26 $1,035,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $3,250,750 $8,785,750 $27,138,000 $8,600,000($39,174,774)

POTENTIAL OUT: 2023, 3 YR, $39,174,774; $18,352,250 DEAD CAP

2023 Contract details by year 27 $11,800,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $3,250,750 $19,550,750 $18,352,250 $12,000,000($51,174,774)
2024 Contract details by year 28 $11,800,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $3,250,750 $19,550,750 $10,801,500 $12,000,000($63,174,774)
2025 Contract details by year 29 $12,000,000 - $200,000 $3,250,750 $15,450,750 $3,250,750 $12,200,000($75,374,774)

 

2nd column form the right is dead money, it hurts. Plus I know each yr the panthers have kicked money down the road, I dont know if sportac kept up with those details.

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3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Do you know a GM personally? Pretty intersting that you can state that so certainly. If you know someone then by all means do share.

 

At the end of the day teams are trading contracts, and the dollar amount of those contracts are how franchise measure gaining value. Teams are not in the business to pay for other team's contracts.

I need to know one or multiple GM's personally to conclude that most of them will recognize that they can simply walk away from the table if we demand more than a 3rd or 4th round pick given everyone knows our contractual circumstances and the circumstances with the question of his availability given his recent run of injuries? Okay.

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Just now, Basbear said:

I think its the dead cap and if traded anytime this year, it would all hit at once. something like 27 million. 

Current Contract

Christian McCaffrey signed a 4 year, $64,063,500 contract with the Carolina Panthers, including a $21,500,000 signing bonus, $38,162,500 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $16,015,875. In 2022, McCaffrey will earn a base salary of $1,035,000, a restructure bonus of $7,365,000 and a workout bonus of $200,000, while carrying a cap hit of $8,785,750 and a dead cap value of $27,138,000.

CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $64,063,500 SIGNING BONUS$21,500,000 AVERAGE SALARY$16,015,875 GTD AT SIGN:$30,062,500 TOTAL GTD:$38,162,500 FREE AGENT:2026 / UFA
  BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS  
YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING WORKOUT RESTRUCTURE CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH
2020 Contract details by year 24 $825,000 $6,969,782 - - $7,794,782 $32,732,282 $22,337,274($22,337,274)  
2021 Contract details by year 25 $990,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $1,409,500 $6,899,500  $33,537,500 $8,237,500($30,574,774)  
2022 Contract details by year 26 $1,035,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $3,250,750 $8,785,750 $27,138,000 $8,600,000($39,174,774)

POTENTIAL OUT: 2023, 3 YR, $39,174,774; $18,352,250 DEAD CAP

2023 Contract details by year 27 $11,800,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $3,250,750 $19,550,750 $18,352,250 $12,000,000($51,174,774)
2024 Contract details by year 28 $11,800,000 $4,300,000 $200,000 $3,250,750 $19,550,750 $10,801,500 $12,000,000($63,174,774)
2025 Contract details by year 29 $12,000,000 - $200,000 $3,250,750 $15,450,750 $3,250,750 $12,200,000($75,374,774)

 

2nd column form the right is dead money, it hurts. Plus I know each yr the panthers have kicked money down the road, I dont know if sportac kept up with those details.

This is what they don't understand it's essentially the same as cutting him the already paid bonus money hits immediately.

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3 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

I don't think you understand how this works...The dead cap on a trade is nearly identical to being cut....

 

Just like being cut his remaining bonus money will count immediately instead of being pro rated.

We are aware. The key to that within this current discussion is absorbing the dead cap hit that is coming one way or another with or without an additional draft pick to ease our minds and give us something anything to build on after wasting an 8th overall pick and the most expensive RB contract in the NFL. But again we do not hold much leverage if you want to continue to argue that there is nothing more we can discuss because it is fantasy.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

I need to know one or multiple GM's personally to conclude that most of them will recognize that they can simply walk away from the table if we demand more than a 3rd or 4th round pick given everyone knows our contractual circumstances and the circumstances with the question of his availability given his recent run of injuries? Okay.

Did I read the report wrong? Did it say the Panthers are calling other teams to trade him? 

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Just now, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

This is what they don't understand it's essentially the same as cutting him the already paid bonus money hits immediately.

It does, that issue should not be debated. Unless theres some new rule/loop hole about dividing up the hit ala post june 1st cut. The trade would be very complex for both parties. Panthers need lube for all the bonus money and are there teams that still view CMC as "elite" *and* want to offer a "elite" trade package? I dont see it, imo CMC will remain a panther. 

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

We are aware. The key to that within this current discussion is absorbing the dead cap hit that is coming one way or another with or without an additional draft pick to ease our minds and give us something anything to build on after wasting an 8th overall pick and the most expensive RB contract in the NFL. But again we do not hold much leverage if you want to continue to argue that there is nothing more we can discuss because it is fantasy.

Dead cap hit either way? lol They aren't cutting him. Wasted? By what definition this team has no SB wins every draft pick in franchise history is technically a waste by your ludicrous definitions.

 

You keep acting like your peace of mind means anything.

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1 minute ago, Basbear said:

It does, that issue should not be debated. Unless theres some new rule/loop hole about dividing up the hit ala post june 1st cut. The trade would be very complex for both parties. Panthers need lube for all the bonus money and are there teams that still view CMC as "elite" *and* want to offer a "elite" trade package? I dont see it, imo CMC will remain a panther. 

If the Panthers were deathly afraid of the dead money McCaffrey wouldn't be available for trade. They know it's coming sooner or later it was a bad deal all along it is what it is.

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Just now, frankw said:

If the Panthers were deathly afraid of the dead money McCaffrey wouldn't be available for trade. They know it's coming sooner or later it was a bad deal all along it is what it is.

I believe GM Scott is just gathering information on CMCs league wide value and RBs in general. Adding this information to the cut option as well. Hes smart about having a "open door" policy about taking any/all trade calls. I had a boss with a similar deal about allowing any vendor in the door, it can benefit everyone if youre smart.....but it also opens your options and market too.  

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5 minutes ago, frankw said:

If the Panthers were deathly afraid of the dead money McCaffrey wouldn't be available for trade. They know it's coming sooner or later it was a bad deal all along it is what it is.

Clearly seeing as they essentially have 100m in dead cap over three seasons... A winning strategy! 

 

None of what's going on lines up with your dumb ass opinion.

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4 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Clearly seeing as they essentially have 100m in dead cap over three seasons... A winning strategy! 

 

None of what's going on lines up with your dumb ass opinion.

You're clearly angry and too emotional over this conversation you're welcome to stop quoting posts that hurt your feelings bud.

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8 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I believe GM Scott is just gathering information on CMCs league wide value and RBs in general. Adding this information to the cut option as well. Hes smart about having a "open door" policy about taking any/all trade calls. I had a boss with a similar deal about allowing any vendor in the door, it can benefit everyone if youre smart.....but it also opens your options and market too.  

I'd have to differ a bit on this IMO this is much more than just due diligence. We are going to shed some of these bad deals one way or another and he's probably been directed to do so by Tepper. That's not a good thing but given how hands on our owner has been it's likely the case. Hopefully things don't get too ugly.

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5 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'd have to differ a bit on this IMO this is much more than just due diligence. We are going to shed some of these bad deals one way or another and he's probably been directed to do so by Tepper. That's not a good thing but given how hands on our owner has been it's likely the case. Hopefully things don't get too ugly.

Bro, if you trade CMC aka your best weapon, thats a harder sale to gain a good HC. You got to factor that in too, lots of stuff to factor in this shitshow...

I think scott will not just make one move either, he will line a few moves with agreed terms and if one happens the others will too. Honestly us fans overrate players, I still think thats the biggest issue. League is not impressed with 2 seasons IR current meh stats CMC, 9 sack best season Burns, Robbie lols, DJ "scared of TDs" moore, etc etc..

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It is very important that death spells should be performed only by the magician himself and not by an inexperienced person. Because a person who is not aware of it can have negative consequences and can get himself affected in the wrong way. Death spells are witchcraft/sorcery done for revenge. The witch casts a very powerful death spell, however you have to prove that the person you are going to punish deserves it. Death spells can be necessary when your back is against the wall, and witchcraft can be a powerful tool. It will also be necessary to cast a powerful death spell if the enemy's preemptive attack is to be decisive. Death spells are actions performed to eliminate a target with a limited spell path. Many death spells can range from the use of common objects to a magical death curse. The potential curse of death spells usually involves a sorcerer and an initiator. Any instant death is designed to take out a person within minutes or hours at most. Instant death spells are common among people who need immediate action against enemies. However, not all instant death spells should be performed, as these spells can have some serious consequences. Witchcraft is a great way to take revenge on your enemies by hurting them spiritually and physically. Kill your enemy at a considerable cost with simple Haitian witchcraft. We can also offer you simple and easy spells to kill your enemy in 2 days. Life is the most precious asset we have, so death revenge spells are the most powerful revenge spells in the world that can cause death. Powerful revenge spells that help you take the ultimate revenge on your enemies. Health revenge spells can cause serious health problems for your opponent. Revenge spells that will give your enemy sleepless nights and nightmares. If someone sees bad dreams and nightmares then make the bad dreams go away. Make your enemies taste their own medicine with revenge spells. Don't let evil win by allowing the evil person who has wronged you to suffer what they deserve, and don't let evil interfere in your world and make people think twice before harming another person who has done nothing to them by using revenge spells. The ultimate revenge. Voodoo/witchcraft death affects the mind, power system and karmic destiny of your victim. When it comes to the energy body, voodoo black spell absorbs all the energy present in it. As a result, any disease like diabetes becomes a serious disease. Even a simple cold can be dangerous to death in case of witchcraft. This witchcraft has the power to destroy someone's life and affect the lives of people connected to that person. The spell is performed by demonic forces that are invisible to humans but have power in the universe. Under a tamasic magical ritual, Pt. Suryanarayana Swami used to conjure these spirits with death spells against the person. No matter how great the power of a human being is, death spells cannot handle him. If a person has a good guardian angel, he will destroy the evil entity in battle. However, if it kills the guardian angel then the victim is helpless. In such a case, the victim dies only when he stops breathing. Call Or WhatsApp : +91-9352347033 E-mail : [email protected]
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