Hope is finally here.

[poundaway]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The drafting was Steve Keim, not Wilks.

And for the record, Wilks QB Coach was Byron Leftwich.

The D royally sucked too, Scot.   Meanwhile even Bradford had the worst performance of his career for Wilks.   The team was 8-8 the year before.  Wilks took an 8 win team and turned it into a 3 win team.  Kiem has been there 13 years.  Kiems absolute WORST year was the only year Wilks was HC.

Any way you slice it, we replaced a 5 win HC with a 3 win HC.

Wilks may turn it around, and unlike some people, I don't decide if I'm rooting for the Panthers depending on whether or not my guy is the HC.  Your just being transparent in your selective excuses.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, poundaway said:

The D royally sucked too, Scot.   Meanwhile even Bradford had the worst performance of his career for Wilks.   The team was 8-8 the year before.  Wilks took an 8 win team and turned it into a 3 win team.  Kiem has been there 13 years.  Kiems absolute WORST year was the only year Wilks was HC.

Any way you slice it, we replaced a 5 win HC with a 3 win HC.

Wilks may turn it around, and unlike some people, I don't decide if I'm rooting for the Panthers depending on whether or not my guy is the HC.  Your just being transparent in your selective excuses.

It was his first year as a head coach.

Hell, I didn't even criticize Rhule for his first year.

[poundaway]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

It was his first year as a head coach.

Hell, I didn't even criticize Rhule for his first year.

As I said.  Excuses. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

5 hours ago, ladypanther said:

My friends, we are here. We wanted hope...we wanted to talk about the future instead of the failed past
which miserably seemed destined to repeat itself every week.

2 admissions....I am a homer and I am an optimist. But admit it...we all want to be here. I will get the
first bold prediction out of the way...the Panthers will beat the Rams this Sunday.

Wilks. So word was Tepper wanted an experienced HC for the next hire. Check. Failed??..Well, he only
got 1 season in Arizona. Gee...how many times does that happen? I am sure there is a little motivation
there.

And.....how did he get on this staff in the first place? I cannot imagine that Rhule went out looking for
previous head coaches who might replace him. Wilks was picked by someone else....so curious about
who that was and obviously convinced Tepper forced the issue.

Wilks seems like the anti Rhule. Not saying that Rhule was a bad guy...just a fish out of water. No doubt
he wanted to succeed and meant well.

Right off the bat Wilks fires 2 [Rhule] coaches. Forget about brass balls....he has real balls...not
arrogance but confidence in his vision.

We all loved the Wilks press conference. Not hype...just real. He is business, straight forward, and if you
look closely, there is some affection there. OMG...we have someone who understands the heritage of this
franchise. This is important...this is our soul. It gives the team meaning. Again, it means something to be
a Panther. It means playing with a purpose. We did not need a damn brand. We had something more
meaningful than that and thankfully we just got it it back.

I cannot imagine that there is anyone who does not hope that this is the right place and the right time for
Steve Wilks. What a story...hometown West Charlotte guy. Has paid his dues and although the Arizona
experience was painful and ugly...seems like a guy that would learn from that.

Wilks has a big challenge with the offense. I hope he can have a positive influence there. It was
encouraging to see him spending time with McAdoo. QB situation...oh dear...but...a fresh perspective
could not hurt. Offense please.....just stay on the field a little longer. Walker.....please please play a decent
game.

Bottom line....no surprise....I am hoping Wilks can turn things around and be the coach of the future. I
know odds are against that but that does not seem to concern him. One of the reasons I like him...he says
it is not about him. Wilks seems like the kind of guy that will really inspire players....and they will respect him and give their
all for. Most importantly, Wilks is a Panther. He will not let the team forget who we are.
I bet there are a lot of people out there who think the Panthers are a mess. Well, for the first time in years,
I think we are not.

I also think moving forward this team will surprise people. First up is the Rams. I will be watching on
Sunday.

GO PANTHERS. KEEP POUNDING!!

GREAT POST

I too am an eternal optimist, so I go into Sunday's game hoping we beat them.  I think it's possible.

I think what is more important is how we actually play.  I think Wilks will have our players coming out to punch LA Rams in the mouth.  Hit them hard and make a statement.  Carolina is not going to just roll over and give you anything.

If we win it will be a glorious day, if we lose and play a good game than there will be optimism for the remainder of the season.   

I will never focus on draft picks until we are mathematically eliminated.  EVER

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, poundaway said:

As I said.  Excuses. 

[poundaway]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

[Pejorative Miscreant]

5 hours ago, PhillyB said:

i smoked a cigar with steve wilks a few years back. extremely straight-forward, no nonsense, no bullshit guy. no car salesman act, no tv preacher schmooze. and he doesn't strike me as the type to try to install a goofy college brand with a bunch of thirty year old millionaires.

i am very optimistic 

I feel like Wilkes is being slighted for having to take over this mess and it might be an albatross for him.  I hope it is not the case.  I only hope that evaluators dont expect too much and he can exceed.  Strikes me as a good coach/person and I believe he deserves a legitimate shot and so far it has not worked out for him.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

I feel like Wilkes is being slighted for having to take over this mess and it might be an albatross for him.  I hope it is not the case.  I only hope that evaluators dont expect too much and he can exceed.  Strikes me as a good coach/person and I believe he deserves a legitimate shot and so far it has not worked out for him.

It's a legit sh-t sandwich. Most interim jobs are.

You're coaching a roster you had no say in building with a staff you didn't choose using schemes you didn't decide on. Throw in that the guy who was in charge of setting up what you now have to work with was so bad at his job that he got fired midseason.

Yikes

As said, I hope the best for him but it's gonna be a lot to ask.

[rayzor]

I hope he succeeds. I'm tired of not.

[poundaway]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's a legit sh-t sandwich. Most interim jobs are.

You're coaching a roster you had no say in building with a staff you didn't choose using schemes you didn't decide on. Throw in that the guy who was in charge of setting up what you now have to work with was so bad at his job that he got fired midseason.

Yikes

As said, I hope the best for him but it's gonna be a lot to ask.

The D is top half of the league.  The ST are kicking ass.

The line has been holding and CMC is healthy.  The problem has been the O, specifically QB play.   If PJ comes in and plays smart, he'll outplay Baker and we could upset some teams. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by poundaway

[poundaway]

3 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

What most seem to be forgetting for Wilkes is that success doesn't have to mean a lot of wins or becoming the next fulltime head coach here.

So instead of lowering the bar, we'll just get rid of it all together.

[outlaw4]

I'm not as hopeful but in terms of circumstances for a debut victory for Wilks, there is enough there. We've stayed in games the first half and frankly, the Rams are just not that good. Even a loss but where the offense shows signs of competence is a step in the right direction.

If we get our doors blown off early, though, yikes.

[poundaway]

Just now, Pakmeng said:

Making this team look competent would be a success for Wilkes. That doesn't mean he has to have a winning record. Given the situation correcting the course is a win.

It's really odd how much you defended Rhule but attack Wilkes.

Posting that you're tired of the Rhule-bitching is not defending Rhule.  Hoping the team wins is not defending Rhule.  I have posted many times that Rhule sucked and that only wins will change that narrative.  He didn't win.  The closest  to defending Rhule was when people were saying that RR walked into the same situation Rhule did.  RR didn't, and it wasn't even close. 

I did say there were a lot of people who hated Rhule.  There are.  Some have even admitted it.

As for the moment the D and ST already look competent, yet that is where Wilks made his staff changes.

The problem is the O, particularly QB play.     He could have fired McAdoo and elevated someone on the O positional staff.  We have some talented people there.  He didn't.

Wilks has a commanding presence and the players love him.  So hopefully he can squeeze out some wins.



 

[onmyown]

This team winning a few games is a horrible thing to hope for. Go watch the the end of 2018 where the Allen lead Panthers fought tooth and nail to defeat the Saints’ third stringers and waterboys to essentially drop 6 spots in the draft or whatever if that kind of weird poo excites you.

The moral victories are redundant, why do people need them over and over? That isn’t hope, it’s meaningless. The top pick in a qb heavy class is hope.

Maybe even more importantly, having that top pick is going to be a factor in luring the best coaching prospects as possible. Wilks is NOT it.

Edited October 14, 2022 by onmyown