NYPost article on John Fox...

[jasonluckydog]

I'm on the fence about Fox I feel very loyal to him and all the great things he has done here he truly is a good coach...What if Fox is gone and we start all over again and look like the Bucs/Rams that scares me the most.

[scpanther22]

Firing Fox would be a mistake. He is a good coach and I am pretty sure won more NFC games in the last 8 years than maybe any other team (not sure about that but probably up there). Yeah he needs to unhook from Delhomme and get a real OC but if it were me I wouldn't fire him.

Fox is a good coach.But sometimes your time runs out in one place.like the article said he could go to NY as def coordinator and when Coughlin contract is up be promoted to HC of NYG in 2011.

[DaveThePanther2008]

I think Richardson is making a mistake if he fires Fox.

Were a quarterback away from a great team and even Fox knows it.

He is a good motivator, keeps the players in his pocket but I gotta agree with Rayzor.

Fox is holding the team back. he doesn't have what it takes to take them all the way. he isn't aggressive enough and doesn't push enough. he rides the brake pedal.

you can't get a ring doing that.

As good has he has been I totally agree. His stubbornness has cost us more than once. Jake being the last of it.

I also think not letting his coordinators do their thing. IMO as a head coach you put your philosophy as to what you want and let your coordinators get it done. He could not keep his hand out of their business.

As they always say: Their isn't an I in TEAM.

Go Panthers

[rayzor]

Firing Fox would be a mistake. He is a good coach and I am pretty sure won more NFC games in the last 8 years than maybe any other team (not sure about that but probably up there). Yeah he needs to unhook from Delhomme and get a real OC but if it were me I wouldn't fire him.

i'm pretty sure he's won more games than most active coaches but thats because most active coaches have been at their jobs for less than 5 years. only andy reid has been with his team for longer in the NFC. only reid, coughlin, fisher, belichick, turner, and wade phillips have been coaching for longer.

after this year i could see of that group only belichick and coughlin still having their jobs and coughlin only for one more year 'cause he'll probably retire.

you realize that there are only 10 coaches in the NFL with more than 4 years coaching experience? 17 coaching changes in the past 2 years and only one has resulted in an experienced coach getting the job (mora, jr. who has only 4 years experience).

for the old coaches....this isn't a good climate. teams are going younger and fresher. panthers absolutely need to follow suit if they are to be competitive.

[RockyTopVol]

That could work for him. I'd like to see him be successful somewhere. I'm just ready for some new blood in Carolina.

[Tank]

I can't find quick stats on NFC comparisons but from the Panthers site (rosy of course) but he has been good for the Panthers.

http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/john-fox/20dfb63b-88ae-4044-96a0-9577d2c933f1

There are few challenges John Fox has not met and answered while becoming the winningest coach in Carolina Panthers history. In seven seasons under Fox, the Panthers have totaled 68 victories, made three playoff appearances, won one NFC Championship, claimed two NFC South titles, been to two NFC Championship games and played in one Super Bowl.

In compiling a 63-49 regular season record and 5-3 postseason mark, Fox has demonstrated a remarkable consistency while guiding his team through the peaks and valleys that accompany an NFL season.

• In Fox's first season as head coach in 2002, the Panthers were coming off a one-win season that included 15 consecutive losses and responded with a six-game improvement to go 7-9.

• A year later, Carolina struggled through a three-game losing streak after jumping off to an 8-2 start, but Fox steadied the ship and the Panthers advanced to Super Bowl XXXVIII after winning the NFC South title.

• The Panthers began the 2004 season 1-7 and lost their three top running backs but recovered to win six of the last eight games and narrowly miss the playoffs.

• In 2005, with Carolina's playoff hopes in jeopardy, Fox rallied the team for a season-ending win at Atlanta and guided the Panthers to the NFC Championship game.

• In 2007, Carolina became the first team in a decade to win at least one game with four different starting quarterbacks, carving out seven victories with starter Jake Delhomme sidelined for all but three games with an elbow injury.

• A year ago, the Panthers equaled a team record with 12 victories and won the NFC South for the second time under Fox.

[Mr. Scot]

Given how they're doing now, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they dumped Coughlin and installed Fox as head coach.

[Kevin Greene]

2 years after a Super Bowl win?

I would.

[PantherKelsey]

Given how they're doing now, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they dumped Coughlin and installed Fox as head coach.

Why would they fire a guy that just won a Super Bowl 2 years ago for a guy that's never won one?

[pantherclaw]

Given how they're doing now, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they dumped Coughlin and installed Fox as head coach.

That is more likely than him becoming their DC.

[unicar15]

Wish him the best...hope it happens for him. Just as long as we get any of the aforementioned coaching candidates in here to run the show.

[Davidson Deac II]

Fwiw, I think if Fox is fired, he will eventually get another shot at head coach. If Norv Turner can get multiple shots, the Fox can get at least two.

[rayzor]

when you only had 2 other coaches and one of them brought about a 1-15 season, you don't have much in the way of competition.

jake is the best QB statistically the panthers have ever had. foster was the best RB statistically before williams last year. point ism just because someone is the best you have ever had at a job doesn't mean you should stick with them forever and ever. desire to get better everywhere. when you see that someone has stopped growing, it's time to go somewhere else, lest you peter out. that's what has happened here. fox went as far as he could. it's time to move forward.

loyalty of the team/organization needs to be to the future and moving towards it. fox set the bar, panthers need to find someone who can raise it higher.

I can't find quick stats on NFC comparisons but from the Panthers site (rosy of course) but he has been good for the Panthers.

http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/john-fox/20dfb63b-88ae-4044-96a0-9577d2c933f1

There are few challenges John Fox has not met and answered while becoming the winningest coach in Carolina Panthers history. In seven seasons under Fox, the Panthers have totaled 68 victories, made three playoff appearances, won one NFC Championship, claimed two NFC South titles, been to two NFC Championship games and played in one Super Bowl.

In compiling a 63-49 regular season record and 5-3 postseason mark, Fox has demonstrated a remarkable consistency while guiding his team through the peaks and valleys that accompany an NFL season.

• In Fox's first season as head coach in 2002, the Panthers were coming off a one-win season that included 15 consecutive losses and responded with a six-game improvement to go 7-9.

• A year later, Carolina struggled through a three-game losing streak after jumping off to an 8-2 start, but Fox steadied the ship and the Panthers advanced to Super Bowl XXXVIII after winning the NFC South title.

• The Panthers began the 2004 season 1-7 and lost their three top running backs but recovered to win six of the last eight games and narrowly miss the playoffs.

• In 2005, with Carolina's playoff hopes in jeopardy, Fox rallied the team for a season-ending win at Atlanta and guided the Panthers to the NFC Championship game.

• In 2007, Carolina became the first team in a decade to win at least one game with four different starting quarterbacks, carving out seven victories with starter Jake Delhomme sidelined for all but three games with an elbow injury.

• A year ago, the Panthers equaled a team record with 12 victories and won the NFC South for the second time under Fox.

[KillerKat]

i'm pretty sure he's won more games than most active coaches but thats because most active coaches have been at their jobs for less than 5 years. only andy reid has been with his team for longer in the NFC. only reid, coughlin, fisher, belichick, turner, and wade phillips have been coaching for longer.

after this year i could see of that group only belichick and coughlin still having their jobs and coughlin only for one more year 'cause he'll probably retire.

you realize that there are only 10 coaches in the NFL with more than 4 years coaching experience? 17 coaching changes in the past 2 years and only one has resulted in an experienced coach getting the job (mora, jr. who has only 4 years experience).

for the old coaches....this isn't a good climate. teams are going younger and fresher. panthers absolutely need to follow suit if they are to be competitive.

when you only had 2 other coaches and one of them brought about a 1-15 season, you don't have much in the way of competition.

jake is the best QB statistically the panthers have ever had. foster was the best RB statistically before williams last year. point ism just because someone is the best you have ever had at a job doesn't mean you should stick with them forever and ever. desire to get better everywhere. when you see that someone has stopped growing, it's time to go somewhere else, lest you peter out. that's what has happened here. fox went as far as he could. it's time to move forward.

loyalty of the team/organization needs to be to the future and moving towards it. fox set the bar, panthers need to find someone who can raise it higher.

Rayzor yet again using logic.