How could we not give Fitt another chance?!?

[R0CKnR0LLA]

5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

So his first round picks look solid (like Hurney), but outside of that he hasn't killed it with the draft.  How else would he "improve the roster?"  That sounds like he can sign FAs like Erving and Elf that were signed early to stupid contracts.  Is trading for Sam considered improving the roster?  

Do you really think he have a good roster now?  

Improve the roster?

I offer this simple question to anyone...

Have the Panthers looked better this year, in Rhules 3rd yeard, or in his earlier years?

Well, obviously anyone with eyeballs can see the Panthers have gotten progressively worse during his tenure.

But why? Is Rhule suddenly magically a different coach? Did he suddenly become trash? Umm, no, he's the same guy he always was.

So why are we even worse off now? It's obvious. The roster is worse. But roster can't be worse because of Fitt right (ALL FHULES FAULT FITT WAS JUST BUSY OUT GETTING COFFEE YOU GUYS)

Edited October 12, 2022 by R0CKnR0LLA

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/10/11/carolina-panthers-next-head-coach/

 

I mean really whats the difference:
"Multiple general managers suggested to me that, should Wilks not win the job, Carolina General Manager Scott Fitterer would strongly endorse Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn. Fitterer and Quinn worked together at the height of the Seahawks’ reign and share a strong relationship, and Quinn, the former head coach in Atlanta, has helped create a dominant unit in Dallas. However, those same GMs believe Quinn will have better options than Carolina."

Better options???  Fitt has built an improving roster here.  Tepper just said it?  How is Carolina not a top option?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

So his first round picks look solid (like Hurney), but outside of that he hasn't killed it with the draft.  How else would he "improve the roster?"  That sounds like he can sign FAs like Erving and Elf that were signed early to stupid contracts.  Is trading for Sam considered improving the roster?  

Do you really think he have a good roster now?  

I think we have areas of it that are good while others need improvement, which is actually pretty standard across the league.

Free agency improved from last year to this year in part because of the addition of Dan Morgan. Fitterer is a draft guy, Morgan a pro personnel guy.

I do feel like the drafts have been decent at the very least, though given we're only two years in it's kind of premature to judge.

But as with other things, I'd like to see how the roster performs when Matt Rhule and his people aren't coaching it.

Or are you going to tell me that who's doing the coaching also makes no difference?

[R0CKnR0LLA]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think we have areas of it that are good while others need improvement, which is actually pretty standard across the league.

Free agency improved from last year to this year in part because of the addition of Dan Morgan. Fitterer is a draft guy, Morgan a pro personnel guy.

I do feel like the drafts have been decent at the very least, though given we're only two years in it's kind of premature to judge.

But as with other things, I'd like to see how the roster performs when Matt Rhule and his people aren't coaching it.

Or are you going to tell me that who's doing the coaching also makes no difference?

THE ROSTER IS WORSE

WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Better options???  Fitt has built an improving roster here.  Tepper just said it?  How is Carolina not a top option?

You're really going off the rails here.

No idea why this is making you so angry.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, R0CKnR0LLA said:

THE ROSTER IS WORSE

WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS

In your opinion.

That's not exactly something I put a lot of stock in.

[Waldo]

Just like with players, when there is massive failure a change of scenery can be good for both sides. 

Fritterer in prove it mode leaves me with giant doubts given what he has done and been a part of here. He does have the rest of the season to prove why he should be brought back. 

The Quinn stuff is a dealkiller and I will absolutely hope against that ever happening. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

In your opinion.

That's not exactly something I put a lot of stock in.

We are 1-4 coming off a blowout at home.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

We are 1-4 coming off a blowout at home.

And just fired a terrible coach.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Waldo said:

Just like with players, when there is massive failure a change of scenery can be good for both sides. 

Fritterer in prove it mode leaves me with giant doubts given what he has done and been a part of here. He does have the rest of the season to prove why he should be brought back. 

The Quinn stuff is a dealkiller and I will absolutely hope against that ever happening. 

I am not 100% against Quinn if it got to that but to have him as your #1 guy is fuging fireable on general principle

[Toomers]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

And just fired a terrible coach.

Who picked the GM you want to keep. So how is that a point in his favor? 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

The Quinn stuff is a dealkiller and I will absolutely hope against that ever happening. 

I don't know that it will, but it's definitely possible given Quinn has ties to both of our top two decision makers and fits the profile of what people believe Tepper wants (though that's speculation too).

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Fitt literally walked into a situation with a below average roster, and somehow made it worse.

Every single year.

Two years under Fitt, we've given out some of the worst contracts, and made some of the worst trades.

The two years under Fitt, have been among the worst offseasons out of the entire NFL.

UMM HELLOOO??? DO YOU HAVE EYEBALLS?

 

[ForJimmy]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I think we have areas of it that are good while others need improvement, which is actually pretty standard across the league.

Free agency improved from last year to this year in part because of the addition of Dan Morgan. Fitterer is a draft guy, Morgan a pro personnel guy.

I do feel like the drafts have been decent at the very least, though given we're only two years in it's kind of premature to judge.

But as with other things, I'd like to see how the roster performs when Matt Rhule and his people aren't coaching it.

Or are you going to tell me that who's doing the coaching also makes no difference?

It was just stated we have had the same coach over 3 years and look worse that ever.  Rhule would be the constant and Fitt would be building the roster to make it better right?  It's a good point by @R0CKnR0LLA.

So Fitt was doing the FAs when we signed Elf and Erving, then Morgan comes in and we sign Bozeman, and Corbett?  If that is true then Morgan seems better off of that.  So who is responsible for us having no draft capital?

I will agree that drafts are still hard to tell.  It took Brown 3 years to develop, but that just means Fitt still haven't proven much at all....