Jason La Canfora on the Panthers Future and CMC

[panthers55]

With CMC healthy again and productive he becomes an asset instead of a liability. I don't see us eating a huge chunk of dead cap money unless we got some real value for him. Sure he has had his injury issues but when healthy he is the best receiver and running back on our team. He generates what little offense we have. What good would a future 2nd rounder be worth to replace a guy we used a first rounder on and until he was hurt was considered a top player in the league. If we trade CMC we are giving up on the season and that I can't abide. Screw draft picks until the season ends, you play to win and players who lay it on the line deserve management doing everything to help them succeed.

[mrcompletely11]

6 hours ago, panthers55 said:

With CMC healthy again and productive he becomes an asset instead of a liability. I don't see us eating a huge chunk of dead cap money unless we got some real value for him. Sure he has had his injury issues but when healthy he is the best receiver and running back on our team. He generates what little offense we have. What good would a future 2nd rounder be worth to replace a guy we used a first rounder on and until he was hurt was considered a top player in the league. If we trade CMC we are giving up on the season and that I can't abide. Screw draft picks until the season ends, you play to win and players who lay it on the line deserve management doing everything to help them succeed.

Since 2018 when he became the starter for us we have won a grand total of 17 games out of 69.   He doesnt move the needle like you think he does.

 

 

[unicar15]

Our issue is the same as it has been since Rhule got here. We don’t have a QB and unlike other top coaches, Rhule can’t gameplan and win without an elite QB. Hell…who knows if he can win WITH an elite QB. 
 

But the issue isn’t the DL, secondary, OL, RBs, WRs. These are all proven position groups at one point or another in their careers. The issue is the QB and HC. No proven track record at those spots. At this point Rhule has used up his bluffs and needs to be replaced. BUT…He won’t be replace during the season. 
 

What difference would that make? We’d be eliminated from the playoffs. We’d have a lame duck coach. Tepper would have to contend with the “did the lame duck do enough to keep the job” talk. Which NEVER works out. Then worst case scenario is even while we’re eliminated the lame duck coach figures out a way to win some games with the only reward being….losing draft status. 
 

I actually think the smartest play if we lose this week (and maybe no matter what) would be to trade CMC and get picks…almost ensuring we finish as one of the worst 3 teams in the league. Rhule will walk at the end of the year I’m almost positive. He’s getting to the point where he’s not even gonna get a good college job if he doesn’t leave soon. You can’t go 4-5 years with zero success and then land an elite job. He could still potentially get one at this point. 

[ECHornet]

54 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Since 2018 when he became the starter for us we have won a grand total of 17 games out of 69.   He doesnt move the needle like you think he does.

 

 

He moves the needle more than most in the league at his position. The problem is no position has a bigger effect on the needle than QB, and we have had a terrible run there the last few years. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

He moves the needle more than most in the league at his position. The problem is no position has a bigger effect on the needle than QB, and we have had a terrible run there the last few years. 

He had a 1000 1000 season and we won 5 games.  Running backs don't matter.  His production from this season could easily be replaced.   Trade him to Buffalo for a first, eat the money and move on

[frankw]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Since 2018 when he became the starter for us we have won a grand total of 17 games out of 69.   He doesnt move the needle like you think he does.

 

 

You can't reason with some of these folks. They would grin like fools and be happy to continue losing as long as they can worship their favorite running back. And you can bet many of them asked other fans over the years if they put one player over the whole team in relation to Cam Newton. Different standards.

[Paa Langfart]

Pretty sure the canfora prediction on cmc was said way back here

 

Edited October 6, 2022 by Paa Langfart

[ECHornet]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

You can't reason with some of these folks. They would grin like fools and be happy to continue losing as long as they can worship their favorite running back. And you can bet many of them asked other fans over the years if they put one player over the whole team in relation to Cam Newton. Different standards.

That’s gotta be it. Different standards. smh

[PNW_PantherMan]

15 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Would you trade him for say...Justin Fields?  Discuss among yourselves. 

No way.  I'd rather hold onto CMC.  Fields does not look like a good NFL QB.  Not sure why people are clinging on so hard here, but he just has not looked good.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

No way.  I'd rather hold onto CMC.  Fields does not look like a good NFL QB.  Not sure why people are clinging on so hard here, but he just has not looked good.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/10/6/23390391/justin-fields-chicago-bears-quarterback

[Carl Spackler]

The key to victory is absolutely trading CMC for another Yetur Gross-Matos. That's how championship teams are made: giving up your few assets for more dogshit.

[frankw]

1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

That’s gotta be it. Different standards. smh

It is and it's plain to see. But you keep pooing posts and hoping all this will just magically go away and CMC will become the greatest RB in history bud.

Edited October 6, 2022 by frankw

[ECHornet]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

It is and it's plain to see. But you keep pooing posts and hoping all this will just magically go away and CMC will become the greatest RB in history bud.

Do you think madden, fantasy owners, and all ranking systems that say CMC is one of the better offensive weapons in the league are racist? CMC fans aren’t just making stuff up when considering him one of the best at his position.

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Do you think madden, fantasy owners, and all ranking systems that say CMC is one of the better offensive weapons in the league are racist? CMC fans aren’t just making stuff up when considering him one of the best at his position.

I'm talking bias and you're talking race we're on different wavelengths here. He's oft injured and obviously we are not going to win anything of meaning or major significance with the way we have assembled our offense ie an overpaid RB first and then plug in whichever leftover QB some team is trying to get rid of. We should have planned on drafting a quarterback the minute we decided Cam was done. You and your pals can live your fantasy of the best weapon in football the rest of us want a real QB and a winning football team.