Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

ALL22: 2-Minute Offense, Cardinal's D-line predicting/diagnosing plays, 2nd Half Defense


AlphabetsEnd
 Share

Recommended Posts

So I just finished the All22 for Sunday's game (third rewatch, but first in All22).

The offense in the 2 minute drill is night and day from the set offense. It's lively improvisational and looks less like a highschool offense. 

 I joked after the game that they should run it all the time as it keeps McAdoo's playcalling at bay. After this last rewatch I'd almost suggest moving towards an uptempo offense. I think it plays to everyone's strengths, especially DJ and Mayfield's chemistry. They seem to struggle to find each other in the normal offense, but they look like a different pair in the 2minute. I say go full Jim Kelly era Bills. 

Also, I watched the Watt deflection about 20 times, as there is defensive adjustment before the snap, and JJ rushes right to the passing lane before Mayfield even throws.. I think John Ellis was correct - the Cardinals DE recognized plays from tape (or the first half) and set-up traps to deflect and intercept. It happens again later twice with Zach Allen, and again later with Watt again.  

Either McAdoo is predictable or someone or something is tipping the short pass plays (Mayfield has a tell? Where CMC lines up?). 4 of the pass deflections are on quick passes. The fifth is over the middle, and JJ (s)Watt is just really good at blocking passes, and Mayfield's track record is playing into that. 

The second half defense is worrying again, but that unit can't be blamed when the offense can't put up points early in the game. 

  • Pie 3
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The BLeav podcast with Jstew addressed the batted balls and think Baker may have a tell from tapping the ball or the way he shifts in the pocket may tell dline guys to stop rushing and get hands up. 

It wouldn't surprise me if there is some tell, but I'd imagine it'd have to be pre-snap, or very quickly after, as 4 of the batted balls were on quick, short passes. Watt blocks one over the middle that clearly is him reading body language or Mayfield's eyes or something. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We actually looked like a competent offense on the two minute drive.

It really stood out on the All-22. Everything is moving faster, the field opens up, CMC is in space, DJ is catching balls farther down field, not at scrimmage. Only one untimely sack, but then the offense rebounded on the fourth down with a nice play, the drives had momentum, that is totally absent from the normal offense.

Mayfield, DJ, CMC all look more comfortable in it, to my eyes. 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Any thoughts on all the TE targets? I felt like Ian getting 3 targets right off the bat really killed the early momentum, but I only caught the original live stream

From memory:

First drive was a pass to Ian (caught) a CMC run to a 3rd and short, and then failed QB sneak, then failed CMC 4th down. Playcalling or run blocking failed that drive, in my opinion. 

Series two was a pass to Ian dropped. A pass to Robby for a gain, then a pass to Ian for the first down that was hit Ian in the hands, in coverage, but was not caught. 

I don't know if Ian was targeted again after that. I think the idea was to get some short gains and develop an offensive rhythm. The drops stopped that from happening. I think it was a good idea to do easy passes to give QB confidence and get some yards, but why throw to players with drop issues - instead of DJ or Ricci who has caught some tough passes from Mayfield already. Or, put Higgins early. 

Tremble had an early drop as well, on a hard throw by Mayfield (hit him in the hands, but a bullet). He recovered and caught a pass or two later that helped in the second half. 3 drops by TE in the first half though probably cost points from the offense, even if only from Eddy P. 

The playcalling is still too streaky - watching live I felt like I predicted the plays, and in rewatch nothing I saw made me go, "oh nice call to keep the defense honest." The failure to run in the second half after the first two plays, when the score was close still makes no sense. 

On the drive that ended in the fumble, the offense was moving well, involving WR and RBs. It was clicking...almost. Then they got cute on the reverse with Higgins on his first touch. I feel like the story of this season is that whenever anything positive is happening on offense, something will go wrong, by some player error or bad situational playcall. 

  • Beer 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, AlphabetsEnd said:

From memory:

First drive was a pass to Ian (caught) a CMC run to a 3rd and short, and then failed QB sneak, then failed CMC 4th down. Playcalling or run blocking failed that drive, in my opinion. 

Series two was a pass to Ian dropped. A pass to Robby for a gain, then a pass to Ian for the first down that was hit Ian in the hands, in coverage, but was not caught. 

I don't know if Ian was targeted again after that. I think the idea was to get some short gains and develop an offensive rhythm. The drops stopped that from happening. I think it was a good idea to do easy passes to give QB confidence and get some yards, but why throw to players with drop issues - instead of DJ or Ricci who has caught some tough passes from Mayfield already. Or, put Higgins early. 

Tremble had an early drop as well, on a hard throw by Mayfield (hit him in the hands, but a bullet). He recovered and caught a pass or two later that helped in the second half. 3 drops by TE in the first half though probably cost points from the offense, even if only from Eddy P. 

The playcalling is still too streaky - watching live I felt like I predicted the plays, and in rewatch nothing I saw made me go, "oh nice call to keep the defense honest." The failure to run in the second half after the first two plays, when the score was close still makes no sense. 

On the drive that ended in the fumble, the offense was moving well, involving WR and RBs. It was clicking...almost. Then they got cute on the reverse with Higgins on his first touch. I feel like the story of this season is that whenever anything positive is happening on offense, something will go wrong, by some player error or bad situational playcall. 

Oh right. The QB sneak and CMC run when Foreman was sitting on the bench doing nothing. Yeah I think that was it for Ian, and I don't really understand why we're rotating 3 TE's that are essentially all used the same way. Strange to try to move Ricci into more of the fullback TE when Tremble was the best run blocker of the group coming out of college. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not that we'll see it with McAdoo, but with these hybrid players, having a fullback/TE, a WR/RB like Laviska, presnap motion to disguise or alter formations could be so fun to see deployed. Add in CMC moving from HB to slot, and you defensive mismatch magic. 

Tremble, to the eye test, has been the best actual TE, though Thomas' contract will likely keep him on the field. Overall, a West Coast offense needs a pure passing TE - like the 49ers had when it was pioneered. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There’s something missing with our offense that’s more obvious of a given “to do” in others around the league. Maybe a practice emphasis or I dunno, but something is just really skewed with not just our execution but in our designs and product at a fundamental level. 

Really feel like a sub league team that should be relegated at this point.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I believe Steve Smith said on FNZ yesterday, that whenever the  Panthers are in the bunch setup, it is always the same play called as Mayfield tried  in the last pass that was batted down 

I’m paraphrasing and probably not well

seems to me that yes, Baker isn’t great but the offense has a lot of ‘tells” to the defense 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Here's the article, obviously about Arizona, but has a lot that speaks to who T-Mac is as a player and person https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40918248/arizona-noah-fifita-aiming-big-12-championship-2024  
    • https://x.com/justinm_nfl/status/1916355909313233403?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
    • Was a crazy day today for me with the Wrexham game starting just into the 4th Round and then them clinching promotion for the 3rd straight year.  So between all that celebrating today and just trying to follow the rest of our draft, I purposefully stayed out of this thread all day to give it a good read through later, lol Here's some responses to some of the things said today, sorry, it's a bit lengthy, but I've gone like 24 hours without getting to talk T-Mac, I was having withdrawals, hahaha. All of this The new staff was not good this past year, to the point that the fan base were calling for heads to roll just a few weeks into the season, it was pretty ugly on the Arizona boards.  The offensive play calling was pretty atrocious as well, and as mentioned here, Fifita took a massive step back this year and was constantly missing T-Mac when he got open and thus the bad/late throws were also causing some of the contested catches he had to make. Plus like you said, the entire offense was just to throw to T-Mac no matter what the coverage because we had no other receiving weapons.  Teams were constantly double teaming him directly off the snap and it was very rare for there to not be a safety already over the top on him before every snap too.   In a way, I'm actually surprised he put up the stats that he did, everything was stacked against him and he still put up 1,300+ yards. I'm actually not sure it has been mentioned, as it was something I never brought up this past year in talking about him on purpose, I didn't want it to sound like I was making any excuses for him, and I don't remember seeing others talk about it as I might have then jumped in too. He missed all of fall camp and only started practicing days before the season opener and at least publicly, it wasn't certain he'd even play the first game, which of course he then went out and put up 300 yards lol.  He also tweaked his ankle at one point about 5-6 weeks into the season.  Came out for a play or two to get checked, then came back in and kept playing but was a step or two slow the rest of the game but seemed mostly fine the rest of the year. In fact, for a few weeks after that, there was a vocal portion of the fan base that were hoping he'd just shut it down for the season because how bad the offense was and felt he was hurting his draft stock and risking injury at the same time.  But as everyone also knew, he wasn't going to quit on his teammates, in particular his QB in their last year together (will get to that later) I do think the original injury and lack of fall camp did keep him a half step slower than the year before at times, but it didn't stop him from still being an All American. This is also another reason T-Mac is a great fit with Bryce, once they get their chemistry down, the two are going to thrive on off script plays. T-Mac and Arizona's QB had played together since the 8th grade and were best friends, they basically shared a brain on the football field and it showed.  It's given him so much experience working off script, while finding and sitting in the holes in coverage to give his QB a big target as they scramble. Yep, smart, swagger, but also a GREAT teammate. When Arizona's coaches left after 2023 season, the assumption was that T-Mac, Fifita, and our top LB (who all went to the same HS together, and with Mason Graham too) were going to follow them to Washington.  In fact, T-Mac was a QB until 8th grade and switched to WR only because of Fifita, he's thrown a TD pass for us too, so he can be used in gadget plays. The day after we hired the new coach, he invited any players to come and talk football in his office, T-Mac and Fifita organized a large group and they talked with him for 2 hours.  When it was done, all the players left but T-Mac and Fifita stayed back and basically told the coach they were staying and were going to keep the team together as much as they could and they did, we only lost a few players (too bad the new coaches sucked lol). Both of them also then turned down some NIL money and told them to use it to give to other players on the team to help keep as much of it together. There's a good ESPN article about this a while back, maybe I'll try to find it. But THIS is the type of kid you want to build around, he's the full package and it's why I never missed a chance to let you guys know he was always the player we should have been targeting. 
×
×
  • Create New...