Does our history with Cam prove that we do need a STAR QB if we want to win in this league?

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, jackson113 said:

Aaron Rodgers has what one Ring? Same as Nick Foles ..... Makes you wonder...

More than two Super Bowls for even elite QB's is relatively rare. 

Get me one and I will be happy. Anything else is icing.

[KillerKat]

If anything, our history with Cam proves you need competent coaching. We should`ve had a couple Super Bowls with him as our QB, but Rivera completely ignored oline and didn`t give him hardly any weapons and stuck him with dumbass OCs. Rivera ruined Cam.

Edited October 1, 2022 by KillerKat

[WarHeel]

[Mr. Scot]

Define “Star QB”

I imagine a lot of people’s definitions would be a Josh Allen type that’s an amazing athletic specimen. But as much as I know people go apesh-t when someone says this, you don’t have to have that to win.

What you do need is a guy who can read a defense, process what he sees quickly and throw an accurate pass. If he’s also a great athlete, cool. 

If he’s not, it’s no big deal.

[PantherPhann89]

NFL history proves that we need a complete organization and team to consistently win in this league...

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Everything needs to be good in order to win.

[Pimpdaddy]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The draft.

What kind of rebuild was this? A defensive one. We spent all our draft assets on defense while we tried to patch an offense together with veteran cast offs. They thought they were going to build an elite defense and win with decent offense like they did at Baylor. Instead they created a decent defense and a clown show of an offense and the end result has amounted to 10-25.

....the 'process' is clearly not working.... i'm thoroughly disgusted with this bag of sht we're holding...  i'm finally detached emotionally and won't engage until there is significant change.... dr tepper can do whatever...

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

....the 'process' is clearly not working.... i'm thoroughly disgusted with this bag of sht we're holding...  i'm finally detached emotionally and won't engage until there is significant change.... dr tepper can do whatever...

There never was a process. The Process was just bullshit sales pitch. The talk said a five year plan. The actions were a series of knee jerk desperation win now moves.

[top dawg]

The whole need for a star QB to consistently compete at a high level in the NFL transcends any lessons learned from our experience with Cam Newton; Cam's just one of many examples of the necessity of a star QB in today's NFL to consistently be successful.

[Malt Liquor]

Like everything it starts from the top. You need a top notch head coach. Then an elite quarterback. 

[Catsfan69]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

More than two Super Bowls for even elite QB's is relatively rare. 

Get me one and I will be happy. Anything else is icing.

It's why I never criticize the Hurricanes. 

They have a cup. Everything else is icing.

 

Just one Superbowl before I die is all I ask. 

[bythenbrs]

[Jake Delhomme enters the chat]

[cookinbrak]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

The whole need for a star QB to consistently compete at a high level in the NFL transcends any lessons learned from our experience with Cam Newton; Cam's just one of many examples of the necessity of a star QB in today's NFL to consistently be successful.

Because Matthew Stafford won so many trophys in Detroit.

[DMathematics]

5 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Because Matthew Stafford won so many trophys in Detroit.

That goes back to what a star QB is though you consider him to be a star? Or he was good enough with the right pieces around him to win last year? And is Baker on that level?