Matt Corral

[DaveThePanther2008]

On 11/11/2022 at 4:59 AM, heel31ok said:

Apples and oranges.There ain't no Cam in this draft.

Absolutely

There are zero QBs in this draft that are clearly head and shoulders above everyone else.

Clearly Apples and Oranges.

Clausen was drafted in the 2nd round.  Received 1st and 2nd string Reps in Preseason.  Started several games and clearly wasn't the Answer at QB.

Corral was drafted in the 3rd Round.  Received very little reps even with 3rd string lines in practice. (well documented 5 minutes or less at the end of practice) Had 2 preseason games with linemen who aren't even in the league anymore.

This is your typical Corral haters trying to justify drafting their favorite mancrush next year.  The good thing is Stroud and Young will not be there when our pick comes in so we'll either trade down and pick up picks or draft another position of need. 

 

[MHS831]

It is hard to gauge what Corral can become.  First of all, he played garbage minutes.  Secondly, Rhule's system has not been kind to QBs--I think he could be decent in a year or two, but I think we should look to grab a veteran if Levis does not slip to us in the draft.  It is my opinion that the offense could use a productive TE--but that does not necessarily mean first round. 

[LinvilleGorge]

You gotta act like Corral doesn't exist in terms of forming next year's roster. If he flourishes, awesome! Great unexpected bonus. If he keeps on sucking, oh well. We tried. But luckily we weren't relying on him for anything anyway so whatever. Keep it moving.

[Jaxel]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You gotta act like Corral doesn't exist in terms of forming next year's roster. If he flourishes, awesome! Great unexpected bonus. If he keeps on sucking, oh well. We tried. But luckily we weren't relying on him for anything anyway so whatever. Keep it moving.

I agree here. All we know about Matt is he struggled in the pre-season and got hurt 2 games into it... You can't go all in on that hoping he ends up being great. Draft an Anthony Richardson type and if Matt some how shines, then you got a win win regardless.

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I agree here. All we know about Matt is he struggled in the pre-season and got hurt 2 games into it... You can't go all in on that hoping he ends up being great. Draft an Anthony Richardson type and if Matt some how shines, then you got a win win regardless.

Bingo. I'm not trying to throw Matt Corral out with the garbage but based on what I saw you're making a real long shot bet counting on him for anything.

[Stuart Smith]

On 12/14/2022 at 9:25 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

Bingo. I'm not trying to throw Matt Corral out with the garbage but based on what I saw you're making a real long shot bet counting on him for anything.

If we draft a quarterback we obviously are going to keep Corral as well until his ceiling can be determined. It will be interesting to see who the “bridge” quarterback will be. 

[rebelrouser]

Some of the experts and our coaches had Corral ranked as the top qb prospect in the draft.  The new coach will either agree with that or he won't. I know whoever Tepper picks won't think Corral is the worst qb in last year's draft based on what little was learned about him with the Panthers. I know if Carolina continues to use draft capital to go after qb's they will continue to suck. We have more problems than qb.  And, Anthony Richardson is a big gamble that will take years to develop. He is more of a sit behind Aaron Rodgers a few years type. I'm pretty confident that Corral would beat him out in the short term. 

[heel31ok]

On 11/7/2022 at 6:35 PM, Varking said:

You keep drafting them until you hit on one. 

no that would be o-line.

[Varking]

On 12/27/2022 at 8:19 AM, heel31ok said:

no that would be o-line.

Why can’t you draft both?

[Bear Hands]

On 12/14/2022 at 8:25 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

Bingo. I'm not trying to throw Matt Corral out with the garbage but based on what I saw you're making a real long shot bet counting on him for anything.

We've also seen the guys who were selected along with him in the 3rd play this year and it's been UGLY.

Willis is set for success with the most consistent run game helping him out and good enough WRs.  He looks abysmal.  Started 3 full games and hasn't thrown for over 150 yards in any.  Floating around 50% completion.  He looks just downright bad, regardless of how much development he needs.  Ridder stuck in it and made some decent throws late last week but otherwise struggled mightily.  

A 3rd rounder should not be relied on in the slightest. Bugs me people keep wanting to just test him out next year and skip this class.  It may be thinned out, but it's not impossible some of these guys turn into something.  Need to keep throwing darts.

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

We've also seen the guys who were selected along with him in the 3rd play this year and it's been UGLY.

Willis is set for success with the most consistent run game helping him out and good enough WRs.  He looks abysmal.  Started 3 full games and hasn't thrown for over 150 yards in any.  Floating around 50% completion.  He looks just downright bad, regardless of how much development he needs.  Ridder stuck in it and made some decent throws late last week but otherwise struggled mightily.  

A 3rd rounder should not be relied on in the slightest. Bugs me people keep wanting to just test him out next year and skip this class.  It may be thinned out, but it's not impossible some of these guys turn into something.  Need to keep throwing darts.

My opinion always has been and always will be that if you don't have a definitive answer at QB on your roster and you think there's a potential franchise QB available, you should draft him. Period.

[rebelrouser]

21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

and you think there's a potential franchise QB available

There is simply not. Hell, Young and Stroud have warts. The guys after them look like second round fliers.  Wilks has really kind of screwed us with a worst case scenario: Wilks winning gives us the 8th pick and him as hc and he keeps McAdoo and drafts Anthony Richardson at 8.  

[LinvilleGorge]

25 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

There is simply not. Hell, Young and Stroud have warts. The guys after them look like second round fliers.  Wilks has really kind of screwed us with a worst case scenario: Wilks winning gives us the 8th pick and him as hc and he keeps McAdoo and drafts Anthony Richardson at 8.  

All of the best young QBs currently in the NFL had warts. Once in a decade prospects like Luck and Lawrence come around about once in a decade. You really wanna just sit on your hands and hope you luck into the #1 overall pick in one of those years? Because you're not gonna be able to trade for that pick.

[rebelrouser]

My personal opinion is to take Bryce Young or CJ Stroud at 8 IF they are available. If they are not, trade back or pick up a position of need and look for a qb in the second round. I don't see that much difference between Richardson/Levis vs. Hendon Hooker.