The Team Played For Their Coach Today

[Panthers Fan 69]

6 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

They played with a lot of heart and energy today and could be seen hugging and patting Rhule on the back all game. That to me is encouraging that they haven't quit on him. I know many on here want us to lose every game, even though it is only week 3, but I want to win. I don't care who the coach is as long as we are winning. Yes, Saints played like ass, but we made big plays at big moments. I personally would rather see us continue this success, than hope for losses. That's just me. 

Why haven’t they done it for the first 2 games much less the last 2 seasons. I don’t buy it. 

[TheCasillas]

5 hours ago, Castavar said:

There's a reason the Jaguars actually look competent and currently smashing the Chargers with basically the same roster from last year. Hmm, wonder what changed?

Just a heads up… the jaguars had the largest roster turnover of any team this past offseason

[Actionman0z]

2 hours ago, rayzor said:

If they are happy with a losing coach, have at it. Either winning is the most important thing or it's not. Apparently winning matters less than loving your coach.

I don't doubt the players love playing for him. Again, I don't think that ultimately matters. The goal is winning. 

People loved playing for Jeff Fisher too. But he was a losing coach who had a job much longer than he should have. 

If a team isn't winning with a coach after a couple years, they have the wrong coach....imo. and my opinion is based on the idea that winning matters much more than anything else.

If his players like playing for them and we're still waiting for them to start executing going into his third season....then that's another huge red flag. 

Something isn't right there. Something hasn't been right. At this point I don't expect it to get right, not by this coach anyways. He just doesn't seem to be able to make it right. They might like him, but he's not helping the win. He's not getting them there. That's his job and he's not doing it. Not well enough.

Fair points

[weyco2000]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

By not being as good at his job as the opposing coach was.

(it's not really that difficult to understand)

And we already had the "close" discussion. You don't keep your job by being close, but if you look at the last several games, we're not really "close" to anything but the bottom of the league.

Technically we’re second in the NFC South. That’s not an opinion, that’s a fact. 

[Castavar]

8 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Just a heads up… the jaguars had the largest roster turnover of any team this past offseason

Oh yeah, I'm sure the likes of Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, and Zay Jones additions really made them start looking like an NFL football team. They're still the Jags. You think Urban Meyer would have them looking like that with the same roster? Trevor Lawrence looked like a bust under Urban. That same QB has a 6:1 TD to int ratio with almost a 70% completion to start the year. Sounds like better coaching to me.

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Oh yeah, I'm sure the likes of Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, and Zay Jones additions really made them start looking like an NFL football team. They're still the Jags. You think Urban Meyer would have them looking like that with the same roster? Trevor Lawrence looked like a bust under Urban. That same QB has a 6:1 TD to int ratio with almost a 70% completion to start the year. Sounds like better coaching to me.

I don’t disagree. But it was stated it was basically the same roster. The jaguars lost about 4-5 starters from last year on both side of the ball. It’s not the same roster. The upgraded in a lot of ways.

Edited September 26, 2022 by TheCasillas

[Castavar]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

I don’t disagree. But it was stated it was basically the same roster. The jaguars lost about 4-5 starters from last year on both side of the ball. It’s not the same roster. The upgraded in a lot of ways.

So you're telling me a good coach + a good offseason can turn things around quickly? That it doesn't take multiple years to start looking decent again? For the record, I can't believe Doug Pederson (a freakin former recent superbowl winning coach) wasn't on our radar. It just stings seeing all these new HCs have early success, ESPECIALLY Mike McDaniel who a lot of us wanted after we fired Rhule (which never happened).

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Castavar said:

So you're telling me a good coach + a good offseason can turn things around quickly? That it doesn't take multiple years to start looking decent again? For the record, I can't believe Doug Pederson (a freakin former recent superbowl winning coach) wasn't on our radar. It just stings seeing all these new HCs have early success, ESPECIALLY Mike McDaniel who a lot of us wanted after we fired Rhule (which never happened).

And a generational qb doesn't hurt

[Castavar]

22 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

And a generational qb doesn't hurt

Well, hopefully Stroud or Young is that for us

[Mage]

If that is the Panthers playing for their head coach

LMFAO

[TheCasillas]

47 minutes ago, Castavar said:

So you're telling me a good coach + a good offseason can turn things around quickly? That it doesn't take multiple years to start looking decent again? For the record, I can't believe Doug Pederson (a freakin former recent superbowl winning coach) wasn't on our radar. It just stings seeing all these new HCs have early success, ESPECIALLY Mike McDaniel who a lot of us wanted after we fired Rhule (which never happened).

I feel like you are leaving out the most important thing… a franchise qb. Unless you are doing that on purpose to attempt to make a point? 

Edited September 26, 2022 by TheCasillas

[Mr. Scot]

6 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

Technically we’re second in the NFC South. That’s not an opinion, that’s a fact. 

Well, if you really want to brag about something like that after Week 3, maybe you should say we're undefeated against divisional opponents

I' d probably wait until we see how these things play out before crowing too much though, but that's just me.

(granted, you might not get too many chances to do this sort of thing if you wait)

Edited September 26, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[Manna]

Because for most of them, they know that the new coach will make them free agents. 

Edited September 26, 2022 by Manna

[Castavar]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

I feel like you are leaving out the most important thing… a franchise qb. Unless you are doing that on purpose to attempt to make a point? 

A franchise QB doesn't mean sh*t if the coaching isn't there. See Cam, Herbert, Murray, Dak, etc. Then I see teams that have had success with no franchise QB because of good coaching; 49ers, Titans, Rams with Goff, etc. And I'm sorry, I didn't know Tua has all of a sudden become a franchise QB even though last year pretty much all Miami fans were ready to move on from him. LIKE I SAID, it's funny how a coaching change + a good offseason can change things around quickly huh?

Edited September 26, 2022 by Castavar