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If Matt Rhule and company are using analytics then they don't understand how to use analytics

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I had replied to another thread from the bot but I'm going to make this its own thread.

McAdoo talked about the team's struggles on 3rd down but showed a stunning lack of awareness as to the root of the issue. He talked as if the offense could basically be fixed by simply addressing our inability to convert on 3rd down, but...

Since we've only played two games it was pretty easy to go through the play by plays to look at our 3rd down situations.

Against the Browns' our average 3rd down distance to go was 9.9 yards.

Against the Giants our average 3rd down distance to go was 10.3 yards. 

That is a recipe for failure and if you look at that and conclude that our issue is 3rd down then you're a fuging moron. Our issue isn't converting on 3rd down. Our issue is consistently putting ourselves in low percentage 3rd and long situations and a lot of it comes down to penalty issues.

These guys talk about analytics but it's just talk. They don't know what they're fuging doing if they're actually utilizing analytics

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To drive my point home, our 3rd down conversion rate is 26%. Horrible, right?

But, it's pretty much exactly what you'd expect it to be based on 2017 regular season data on 3rd down conversion success based on yards to go which is the only info on the matter I could find with a quick search.

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In short, our offensive issue is absolutely NOT converting 3rd downs. We're actually okay there based on the analytics. Not great. Not awful. But fine. Consistently putting ourselves into 3rd and long situations is our issue on offense.

This may point heavily to Orlovski being right about us tipping our hand on offense. You can't really tip your hand on 3rd and long. It's an obvious passing down. Take away our ability to tip our own hand and we're pretty much the overall average offense mose of us expected us to be. Not great. Not awful. But fine.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

To drive my point home, our 3rd down conversion rate is 26%. Horrible, right?

But, it's almost exactly what you'd expect it to be based on 2017 regular season data on 3rd down conversion success based on yards to go which is the only info on the matter I could find with a quick search.

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Someone should ask Rhule about this, since he says we are rushing for 6+ ypc, how do we keep ending up in 3rd and 9+ yards to go situations? 

The whole group is a bunch of idiots and retread losers. 

And No i Do not want to hear from any of these coaches fanboys that they are not bad coaches, if any of these morons were not bad coaches they would be employed on another team , not with Matt Rhules group of losers. 

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9 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

You’re supposed to be laughing remember… not emotionally invested…

I'm a total numbers geek. I actually enjoy analytics. It's not emotional for me. Numbers are what they are and it's fun to look at it. And it's fun to laugh at our staff when they show such blatant ignorance of it while acting like they're out-analyzing the rest of the league while losing 2.5 games for every 1 that they win. 😂

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