Great Podcast with Jonathan Stewart

[d-dave]

I know some people just don't like podcasts.  I get it.  But sometimes you get some great interviews.  This morning I started listening to this episode with Jonathan Stewart, which I found super insightful.  It's only about 36 minutes long, and the content with JStew is pretty cool.

What I took away from Stewart is that there is a distinct lack of trust on the team.  Period.  Can they trust the play call?  The other guys?  With that sense of trust is how much you have your bud's back?  It's a very interesting perspective about the relationships between players, coaches, and the families.  Stewart said "it's not just us winning, it's our kids and our families winning."  That hit really hard. 

He also said something many of us will not like to hear: it's not all on Matt Rhule.  He didn't fumble the ball.  He didn't drop a pick.  He didn't miss a block.  Remember his perspective as a player before you think he's just soft in the head.  He does also say that when players do their jobs and the results stink, that's on the coaches.  It's something we need to remember - there is a give and take between players and coaches.

Overall, really enjoyable listen for me.  Maybe you will disagree and that's fine.  It's important to try to look at the different perspectives as we try not to sell our team out completely.  Not that they haven't earned it thus far...

[mrcompletely11]

Julian does a great job with his podcast

[*FreeFua*]

We talking about Chuba fumbling? because that is on Matt Rhule

Chuba shouldn’t be on the team. He adds no value yet he’s still here. Chuba showed during the pre season he still can’t catch a football so him fumbling a kickoff should surprise no one. 

Then to trot him back out there after he fumbled and have him nearly do it again? Yeah that’s on the coaching staff

[hepcat]

7 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Then to trot him back out there after he fumbled and have him nearly do it again? Yeah that’s on the coaching staff

This 100%. If Chuba had done that on Bill Belichick’s team, he wouldn’t see the field again until Week 10

[TLGPanthersFan]

Doesn’t matter if it isn’t all on Rhule. There is enough on him for him to have been fired twice over. 

[rippadonn]

Wilkes said most of those guys shouldn't be starting in the NFL. THATS not on the players.

JStew is trying to be nice. It is Rhule but the blame and flame are on Tepper.

 

[Wundrbread33]

2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Wilkes said most of those guys shouldn't be starting in the NFL. THATS not on the players.

JStew is trying to be nice. It is Rhule but the blame and flame are on Tepper.

 

He said that? When?

 

Was this part of that “Snow runs the show and Rhule is his puppet” Twitter thread?

[raleigh-panther]

When the same mistakes happen, year after year, and sometimes it’s the same player, that is on coaching or lack thereof 

Case in point, Chubba has had ‘hands of stone’  since college..lol all the players on the team, he is the one to do kickoffs ?  Come on man   Just like throwing to him out of the backfield  he is nit a complete back and it is doubtful any other team would pick him up.

look at the results of this coach’s drafts ..they are not  great

go look at the top 15 teams  and how they play vs this team….

I believe what my eyes have shown me for starting year 3

not to worry, this schedule will flush it out, probably after the Tampa game, the jury will be in. 

[Burnout189]

The coaches evaluate the talent and the game plan for each week. It's up to the players to execute that game plan to the best of their ability. But if the game plan sucks to begin with, not to mention the talent level of the players being put out there by the coaches to execute said plan is severely lacking, then well, you're gonna have a bad time.

Edited September 21, 2022 by Burnout189

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

We talking about Chuba fumbling? because that is on Matt Rhule

Chuba shouldn’t be on the team. He adds no value yet he’s still here. Chuba showed during the pre season he still can’t catch a football so him fumbling a kickoff should surprise no one. 

Then to trot him back out there after he fumbled and have him nearly do it again? Yeah that’s on the coaching staff

He nearly had 2 fumbles.  I am guessing he had about 4 touches, and 2 of them ended up on the ground.

[raleigh-panther]

And yet everything Stewart said after his opening sentence, points to coaching in training camp and uniformity and familiarity lacking,  an offensive identity lacking, identify and player selection to support Baker’s, comfort, ie Higgins 

[therealmjl]

22 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Wilkes said most of those guys shouldn't be starting in the NFL. THATS not on the players.

JStew is trying to be nice. It is Rhule but the blame and flame are on Tepper.

 

When did he say that?

[therealmjl]

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

He nearly had 2 fumbles.  I am guessing he had about 4 touches, and 2 of them ended up on the ground.

 

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

We talking about Chuba fumbling? because that is on Matt Rhule

Chuba shouldn’t be on the team. He adds no value yet he’s still here. Chuba showed during the pre season he still can’t catch a football so him fumbling a kickoff should surprise no one. 

Then to trot him back out there after he fumbled and have him nearly do it again? Yeah that’s on the coaching staff

He shouldn’t be back there regardless. Actually, yeah he shouldn’t be on the team.

Remember that deep kick he brought out late in the game vs CLE?

[SetfreexX]

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

We talking about Chuba fumbling? because that is on Matt Rhule

Chuba shouldn’t be on the team. He adds no value yet he’s still here. Chuba showed during the pre season he still can’t catch a football so him fumbling a kickoff should surprise no one. 

Then to trot him back out there after he fumbled and have him nearly do it again? Yeah that’s on the coaching staff

This is EXACTLY what I was going to say, Chuba should have been cut after the PS, and we should have signed a FA as they are not expensive. 

When we talk about fumbles, missed blocks, dropped passes etc. we have to look at the decisions the COACH makes with the personnel...

We split reps with Ickey our 1st round selection number 6 overall with BC and WASTED reps in camp to help speed up his development...why? A 3rd rounder in BC was never going to be him out. 

We split reps with Baker / Sam, again NO ONE though Sam was going to win, you don't trade for Baker to sit him, so why did we waste those reps. 

The only other person we really have that's decent at returns is Shi, they had him out there for punts, but not KR, why?

We trade for Shenault, we draft TMJ in round 2, we signed a WR that has years of rapport with Baker, and yet we are force feeding Shi Smith....I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, but this is the deepest we've ever been at WR, why are we NOT taking advantage of that?

So while I agree with players have to execute, coaches have to 1) have a plan that CAN be executed, and 2) they have to put the players in the best position / environment to execute. 

To me that is what Rhule has failed at since his time here began, overall we have the same issues we had back in 2020, even with an improved roster.