Jaycee Horn….

[electro's horse]

i think he’s playing very well overall for what is only his fifth game as a pro. He’s had a couple of “burned” but each one also looks like he didn’t know his assignment or he was expecting help over top. I’m not trying to make excuses; I’m just perplexed how we are using so many safeties and never seem to have anyone deep. 
 

i don’t think this scheme is doing him any favors. Hell, chinn has been caught out of positions multiple times, or has been covering. on the touchdown to the tight end I don’t think that was Chinns man. Like I don’t have time to rewatch things but that whole play looked weird defensively. 
 

i think this scheme might look a lot better on paper. Or, in year three all the nfl offensive coordinators have figured it out. The giants and browns both looked like they had plays they knew they could go to when they needed to, and that’s how you game plan. Well, competent teams anyway. 
 

i think the panthers are staring down some bad blowouts soon. 

Edited September 20, 2022 by electro's horse

[TheMostInterestingMan]

11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I'd be pretty happy with him if he was a mid-round pick instead of a top 10 overall pick.

No one is calling him a bust but you're lying to yourself if you think he's truly playing well.

In fairness, the same can be said about Fields and that’s who people that hated the Horn pick wanted us to take. I understand positional value but both have been pretty meh thus far. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

In fairness, the same can be said about Fields and that’s who people that hated the Horn pick wanted us to take. I understand positional value but both have been pretty meh thus far. 

Agreed. 

[L-TownCat]

I’d say people are lashing out at all of them.  Even that is muted b/c we’ve sucked so long.

[TheBigKat]

Cause anyone with an iQ over 10 knew that Jon Beason Jr was on the board but we instead took a corner

 

[joemac]

Dude has played 5 pro games and given up a TOTAL of like 6 or 7 catches.  The only time you even see him is when he commits a dumb penalty.  QBs rarely even throw his way.  TF yall talking about?

[Skack25]

Hard to truly evaluate anyone in this scheme.

Hindsight is 20/20.  If we'd have taken Fields or Parsons.. they'd both be nobodies.

[PNW_PantherMan]

37 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

Cause anyone with an iQ over 10 knew that Jon Beason Jr was on the board but we instead took a corner

 

Man Beason was an absolute monster in his prime.

[trucpfan]

3 minutes ago, Skack25 said:

Hard to truly evaluate anyone in this scheme.

Hindsight is 20/20.  If we'd have taken Fields or Parsons.. they'd both be nobodies.

That’s what’s so dam scary I truly believe they just can’t develop guys as well as they need to. One main reason is he has never done it before he doesn’t know what it takes to develop NFl players because his best work was at Baylor(college level). Look at coaches off Mcvay and Shanahans tree they understand it because they’ve seen it in the last few years. They’ve seen what it takes to develop and maximize a Deebo S or Cooper K. Rhule simply hasn’t done it yet I believe he’ll be a good coach his next time around now that he’s gotten his NFL experience. Time for him to reset and work his way back up to another NFl head coaching job in about 3 years.

[NorthTryon]

9 hours ago, Snake said:

I mean why wouldn't you play a team full of man CBs in zone. No other team would see that coming. 

These first two teams haven't super exploited us for it, but I fear the next month with some good QBs it may be really bad. 

Edited September 20, 2022 by NorthTryon

[therealmjl]

12 hours ago, rayzor said:

We drafted him because of his skills in man coverage, right? And we've got him playing zone.

Why should I expect anything else?

Rhule said during his presser yesterday that they are playing more zone now because Steve Wilks wants us to intercept the ball more. A novel thought, Coach Wilks.

[Snake]

38 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

These first two teams haven't super exploited us for it, but I fear the next month with some good QBs it may be really bad. 

Yeah it's going to happen. I mean we haven't even been competitive with good teams for 3 years. 

[SuperBowlBound]

1 hour ago, Skack25 said:

Hard to truly evaluate anyone in this scheme.

Hindsight is 20/20.  If we'd have taken Fields or Parsons.. they'd both be nobodies.

Parsons or “doesn’t have the size to play tackle” Slater should’ve been the pick. Justin Fields can’t play. Watch the damn tape people. He can’t read the field. It’s embarrassing to see how hyped up this guy got by “draft Twitter”. They only see what they want their excel spreadsheets to tell them. Also, how’s the 2021 class looking? “We have a real GM! He trades down!” YOU STILL HAVE TO GET PLAYERS THAT ARE GOOD!!!!!

[MasterAwesome]

There was a swarm of people who pushed back any time anyone complained about the refs in Week 1, saying there was a slew of bigger reasons as to why we lost.  I'd say that surely applies here too with Horn.  As far as reasons why we're 0-2, I'd put Horn very close to the bottom of that list.