Igo, any credence to this?

[unicar15]

Everyone is pretty rough on Derrick Brown. What if it’s just that he’s literally the only player on D built to stop the run and he can’t do it alone?

[BIGH2001]

Well Rhule finally hired a real NFL staff. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some tension among that staff and the college holdover. This problem could take care of itself with just a few more ugly losses. 

[LinvilleGorge]

53 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Everyone is pretty rough on Derrick Brown. What if it’s just that he’s literally the only player on D built to stop the run and he can’t do it alone?

He's getting his butt whipped. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't basically frustrated and checked out.

[davos]

With this type of stuff, the truth always lies somewhere between.

Could see a lot of this rumor being blown out of proportion after an actual visible argument between Snow and Wilks about Chinn but then it goes on and is likely stretching things.

We have effectively neutered Chinn the past year or so but stuff like Brown becoming a pass rusher contrasts from how Snow has talked about his use. Burbs wanting out, could see it.

Taking it with a grain of salt but it’s a rumor at the end of the day.

[KSpan]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

IDK if I buy all this. I can buy that the players don't believe in some of the things our coaches are doing but we are also not seeing our younger players jump ship. However, almost any veteran we try to retain leaves. So that isn't nothing.

If even bits or pieces of this are true, it's pretty bad. Also, the idea that Snow's defense is basically college tier has literally been said by league sources about us since 2020. So I don't know if that is some sort of revelation. 

Either way, it's an interesting read.

Not sure I agree with you fully on the veteran retention point (Done, DJ, etc) but maybe those are the younger players you reference. Otherwise, i pretty much agree with you on the rest.

Even with my lack of faith in Rhule taking this all at face value is a very tough sell, but it's awfully specific and most isn't much of a reach from what we see on Sundays. Truth to any individual bit would be bad enough but if all of it was somehow true... dang.

[Toomers]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's getting his butt whipped. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't basically frustrated and checked out.

 Been a long time, but watching the replay I thought the same thing. Much of last year too. And I was as high on Brown as anyone. Still want the Steelers to trade with y’all for him. But his effort looks pitiful. 
 

  And the DEF is/will be historically bad against the run if he isn’t in the game. This past week…..

Chubb/Hunt with Brown in game-3.6 YPC

Chubb/Hunt without Brown in game-8.6 YPC. 
 

They surrounded him with no one who can play the run at an even average level. It will be worse than 2019 if Brown gets hurt. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

This all falls on Tepper, ultimately.

[Wundrbread33]

30 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 Been a long time, but watching the replay I thought the same thing. Much of last year too. And I was as high on Brown as anyone. Still want the Steelers to trade with y’all for him. But his effort looks pitiful. 
 

  And the DEF is/will be historically bad against the run if he isn’t in the game. This past week…..

Chubb/Hunt with Brown in game-3.6 YPC

Chubb/Hunt without Brown in game-8.6 YPC. 
 

They surrounded him with no one who can play the run at an even average level. It will be worse than 2019 if Brown gets hurt. 

Will it to existence! 

[frankw]

I guess we'll know our answer if we get our asses kicked on Sunday.

[Jackie Lee]

 

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

It was only week 1. It's going to get a lot more interesting for him as the season drags on.

[Jon Snow]

Who the hell are these guys? Sounds like a bunch of wannabes spouting crap.

[Panthercougar68]

Starting to fall into this camp

[rayzor]

9 hours ago, Actionman0z said:

What a load of bullshit 

Why? Because you don't like it?