Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Other games

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

t96 Grand Master

t96

Posted
Posted
8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Based on a tipped pass?

No, in general. That was a bad first drive from him. He's a great QB definitely a franchise QB, I just think it's ridiculous that many put him above or on par with guys like Mahomes, Rodgers, etc.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kungfoodude Grand Master

kungfoodude

Posted
Posted
Just now, t96 said:

No, in general. That was a bad first drive from him. He's a great QB definitely a franchise QB, I just think it's ridiculous that many put him above or on par with guys like Mahomes, Rodgers, etc.

He has the level of talent, without question. He just hasn't proven he can play at the level of play consistently. I mean, whatever shade you could throw at him for his MVP could easily be thrown at Cam. 

I still think Cam was an elite QB so why would I not think Allen is an elite QB?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
t96 Grand Master

t96

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

He has the level of talent, without question. He just hasn't proven he can play at the level of play consistently. I mean, whatever shade you could throw at him for his MVP could easily be thrown at Cam. 

I still think Cam was an elite QB so why would I not think Allen is an elite QB?

I don't think Allen won an MVP...?

 

I think Cam is a good comparison. I absolutely love Cam and think he gets way more criticism than he deserves, especially when he was put in a pretty bad position here most of his career. But realistically, he has never been on the level of the top top guys like Mahomes and Rodgers, even in his MVP year. I don't dislike Allen at all, what I'd give to have him here with competent coaching. I was more referring to fans the last few years who have called him the best QB in the league or in that very top tier of QBs. I don't think he's there yet.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kungfoodude Grand Master

kungfoodude

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, t96 said:

I don't think Allen won an MVP...?

 

I think Cam is a good comparison. I absolutely love Cam and think he gets way more criticism than he deserves, especially when he was put in a pretty bad position here most of his career. But realistically, he has never been on the level of the top top guys like Mahomes and Rodgers, even in his MVP year. I don't dislike Allen at all, what I'd give to have him here with competent coaching. I was more referring to fans the last few years who have called him the best QB in the league or in that very top tier of QBs. I don't think he's there yet.

I am mistaken, I was thinking he won the MVP in 2020. I forgot we are on a back-to-back Rodgers streak. 

Yeah, I get what you are saying about that otherworldly level of play that sometimes Mahomes and Rodgers can display. You don't see it quite as often with guys like Allen or Cam.

I still considering him a top 5 QB in the NFL, regardless.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
18 minutes ago, t96 said:

I don't think Allen won an MVP...?

 

I think Cam is a good comparison. I absolutely love Cam and think he gets way more criticism than he deserves, especially when he was put in a pretty bad position here most of his career. But realistically, he has never been on the level of the top top guys like Mahomes and Rodgers, even in his MVP year. I don't dislike Allen at all, what I'd give to have him here with competent coaching. I was more referring to fans the last few years who have called him the best QB in the league or in that very top tier of QBs. I don't think he's there yet.

Let me know when any of those guys win an MVP with a Ted Ginn Jr. level WR as their #1 WR.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • ClawOn
      Predictions for Brooks debut

      By ClawOn · Posted

      The other draft picks have turned out pretty well. Brooks will too.
    • tukafan21
      Updated 2025 draft order

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      I'm still not touching Hunter He again said the other day that he plans on playing both sides of the ball in the NFL.  If he is allowed to do that, he won't be as good on either side as his potential and he's going to have serious injury issues and have a short career.  If he's not allowed to do it, I think he's going to become a problem when the team isn't winning as he's going to feel him not being used on both sides of the ball is why. He's being coddled in that environment with Deion and I think it's doing a disservice to him to prepare him for life in the NFL where your coach isn't a 2nd father to you, to where you can just walk into his locker room and steal his shoes like Hunter does to Deion.
    • Bear Hands
      Real Mid-Season Development at QB: Bo Nix

      By Bear Hands · Posted

      He’s a tad behind them. Around 15ish of 32 starters in the league. He’s well ahead of a lot of guys. Tua, Bryce, Cousins (present), Rodgers (current), Devito/Jones, Minshew, Russ (current), Watson, Smith, Carr, T Laws deep ball is weak as poo IMO, there’s plenty. And it’s not like everyone is ripping 60+ers. The key component is if you can rip and maintain velocity of the 30-40 yarders which he does super well. Legit every report out there from Brugler to PFF to PFN document him as good/above average arm strength.  Eye test tells me it’s pretty much that as well, slightly above average.
×
×
  • Create New...