I believed in Baker. But I was wrong. Also, the OL sucks ass.

[RJK]

5 minutes ago, Manna said:

Rhule has everyone playing scared, Mayfield included. 

yeah the whole team is tight. Absolutely no leadership exists on this team right now

[Pimpdaddy]

...no excuses but he is running for his life damn near every snap.... funny how no one can get separation in any way shape or form..

Edited September 18, 2022 by Pimpdaddy

[OneBadCat]

If Shi makes the catches it’s a different story. Baker wasn’t a problem today.

[AlphabetsEnd]

Mayfield can (and has) played much better than this, even in 2021. The offense is just not working and Mayfield is part of the problem, but there are a lot of problems.

QBs need time to learn systems and receivers, and not arrive after OTAs, and split reps for as long as he did. 

[L-TownCat]

Disagree on Baker.  He has the potential.  But bad coaching can’t be overcome.

[Rubi]

This OL is setup nicely for CMC

McAdoo wants to sling it instead with a guy who’s 5’10 and throws it flat 

[Jackie Lee]

I wasn't expecting the Giants backup CB's to be blanketing our WR's all game long. That didn't help. I barely saw anyone open, I put it on McAdoo having a shitty game plan. We had 3 quarters of opportunity to run the ball down their throats and we did whatever that was

[Fox007]

1 minute ago, PhillyB said:

how many throws did baker actually miss? i counted three game changing drops from shi smith alone. more from others (thomas, CMC) plus fumbles and poo, baker was hardly the problem here imo

and let's not forget the tackles played horribly and he was running for his life every down 

You know the site bruv....none of the QBs have been even top 3 offensive concerns.

Its just glorious how they overplay bad play by some and have trash other players in the HoF. Our WR corps sucks and is trash. We have DJ Moore and that's it. They just don't watch NFL football. They turn the Panthers on then that's it after the game they don't see how literally 4th stringers would run circles around our guys all over the NFL shop here. 

Bad TE, Bad WR, Worst OL but its Darnold no now Cam comes to save the day no now Cam sucks no now PJ comes to no he sucks now Baker comes to no now he sucks.....

Its part of the fun now tbh

[fjblair]

This team is an unmitigated disaster not of Baker Mayfield's making.

[AlphabetsEnd]

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

I wasn't expecting the Giants backup CB's to be blanketing our WR's all game long. That didn't help. I barely saw anyone open, I put it on McAdoo having a shitty game plan. We had 3 quarters of opportunity to run the ball down their throats and we did whatever that was

That was my feeling in watching, but I tend to fixate during live games on the ball-carrier, so I'll need to rewatch the coverages. 

I don't understand the game plan at all though. 

[Proudiddy]

2 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

how many throws did baker actually miss? i counted three game changing drops from shi smith alone. more from others (thomas, CMC) plus fumbles and poo, baker was hardly the problem here imo

and let's not forget the tackles played horribly and he was running for his life every down 

I don't dispute it is incredibly hard to evaluate any of these guys under this staff.  Baker has had moments.  But the overthrow to Shi on the broken play was probably the most egregious.  I saw a lot of people blame Shi, but he had no shot at it.

And that drive in the 4th where he threw 3 straight times, including two horrible decisions were also really bad.

When guys get over the top, we have to hit them, and we don't.  But I also won't dispute, the OL playing like a sieve didn't help his cause at all.  It's just that even with finally getting the run game going, our offense still looked atrocious for most of the game.

[Fox007]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I wasn't expecting the Giants backup CB's to be blanketing our WR's all game long. That didn't help. I barely saw anyone open, I put it on McAdoo having a shitty game plan. We had 3 quarters of opportunity to run the ball down their throats and we did whatever that was

They also had two backups on the DL.....

This team has no talent lol. The imaginary play that goes on in peoples head during the offseason literally has a lot of these people too far gone. It really would help for them to put on other games

[cookinbrak]

7 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

and let's not forget the tackles played horribly and he was running for his life every down 

I could see Icky and BC having learning issues, but Moton is swiping air a lot.

[Proudiddy]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I wasn't expecting the Giants backup CB's to be blanketing our WR's all game long. That didn't help. I barely saw anyone open, I put it on McAdoo having a shitty game plan. We had 3 quarters of opportunity to run the ball down their throats and we did whatever that was

I agree, the scheme is the biggest problem.  I kept alluding to how easy the Giants were getting their scrubs open with their use of tight, doubles, and stack formations along with route combinations like drags overlapping each other or in tandem with flats.  

We just ran fuging spread formations and their nobodies clamped our receivers up.