Thursday Pressers

[Jackie Lee]

5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

So what is plan B when every team you gave does the same thing?.....which they will, btw.

I would say blitz more but Snow only blitzed like 19% of the time last year so who knows.

[rayzor]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

Im not sure how a HC or DC could teach a player who has been playing football all of their lives how to tackle. It just seems like a pre-requisite coming to the NFL. But what I know?

It's the job of coaching to 1) make sure your players do everything right and 2) make players correct what they don't do right.

If you didn't know this before, you know it now . 

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Im not sure how a HC or DC could teach a player who has been playing football all of their lives how to tackle. It just seems like a pre-requisite coming to the NFL. But what I know?

Very true. But these fellas didn't draft or sign themselves so make it work or get someone who can do better?

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

It's the job of coaching to 1) make sure your players do everything right and 2) make players correct what they don't do right.

If you didn't know this before, you know it now . 

I dont think you can blanket it like that. It really breaks down to:

Postional Coaches: Coach players on their technique and their postion

Coordinators: Come up with game plans and have positional coaches prep their players for the gameplan and critique technique coached by positional coaches

Head Coach: Validate the game plan and hold coordinators accountable for the postional coaches managing the players outputs.

 

This is the way all NFL franchises are run. NFL  Coaches are more managers than they are coaches. Bill B spoke to this in an interview about 5-6 years ago and why its important that your staff is held accountable for the overall success of your program. 

Edited September 15, 2022 by TheCasillas

[*FreeFua*]

7 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

So the two times I recall Brian Burns making contact with the QB.  The play where he grabbed on to Brissett's leg while he threw the ball away and this roughing the passer helmet to helmet contact.  Not exactly what we need from someone who's supposed to be such an impact player on our defense.

Yep like Snow said all the good edge rushers get chipped or double teamed. The good ones still rack up the sacks. Myles Garrett got to Baker Sunday. 

I bring this up because Burns is going to want elite edge money this off season and his numbers simply don’t warrant it

[rayzor]

6 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I dont think you can blanket it like that. It really breaks down to:

Postional Coaches: Coach players on their technique and their postion
Coordinators: Come up with game plans and have positional coaches prep their players for the gameplan and critique technique coached by positional coaches
Head Coach: Validate the game plan and hold coordinators accountable for the postional coaches managing the players outputs.

 

This is the way all NFL franchises are run. NFL  Coaches are more managers than they are coaches. Bill B spoke to this in an interview about 5-6 years ago and why its important that your staff is held accountable for the overall success of your program. 

Yes you can blanket it like that. It really is, at it's core, that simple. 

It doesn't matter what structure they have set up....the goals/objectives are the same. Coaches get their players ready to win. It's Rhule's job to make sure the players are in the best position to win in all aspects. 

You set in place a structure and system to make that happen and you make sure it does.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, rayzor said:

Yes you can blanket it like that. It really is, at it's core, that simple. 

It doesn't matter what structure they have set up....the goals/objectives are the same. Coaches get their players ready to win. It's Rhule's job to make sure the players are in the best position to win in all aspects. 

thats different from our conversation started.  We were talking about players knowing how to do the basics. No one will disagree that putting players in the best position to win the is the HC's job.

 

If we stay to the root of our conversation, if your HC is teaching your players the basics... then that is a huge problem.

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

?

 

We brought this guy in to make things better, to light a fire under the offense.

Wow.

[matt rhules gut fat]

Ben McAdoo could be a poet

[Snake]

31 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

well tackling is a basic part of the game, haha and we missed 17 of those. Maybe back to the basics is the right thing to do. 

My point is we should have been in the basics in TC not second week of the season. 

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

We brought this guy in to make things better, to light a fire under the offense.

Wow.

It appears he is saying that the only score that matters is the end of the 4th quarter score.

[rayzor]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

thats different from our conversation started.  We were talking about players knowing how to do the basics. No one will disagree that putting players in the best position to win the is the HC's job.

 

If we stay to the root of our conversation, if your HC is teaching your players the basics... then that is a huge problem.

Yes, but it's a problem good coaches figure out how to solve. Problems don't matter. Problems are always there. The good coach/leader/manager finds a way to do it.

[ncfan]

 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, ncfan said:

 

I get what Snow is trying to say there but damn that was a poor way to phrase it