Pic tells it all. Better fix that o line issue

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

it was 3rd and 7... i dont think many teams would call a run defense in that situation. 

Understood, but I'm speaking in general.

We weren't threatening anybody with the run at that point, and definitely not enough for it to be an option in those situations.

[Luciu5]

19 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Sent 7, we had 6. 

 

Baker has to see it.

This is a bad protection call. Most likely the line slid the wrong way. I'd like to think the blitz was disguised.

[kungfoodude]

16 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I am not really concerned about left tackle play in that game.  A rookie going up against perhaps the best in the league was not going to work out well.  But they needed to give the rookie some help.  I guess they did eventually, but they waited to long.

The pressure up the middle though is more concerning imo.

The issue is that it's hard to help the guys in the middle. Elflein is just bad. Corbett appeared to be shaky, best. BC has obvious limitations in terms of power but I think he can still be effective.

If Bozeman isn't an upgrade over Elflein, that is really bad. I think Mays might even be an upgrade over Corbett but that won't happen until very late in the season with Rhule being the way he is.

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

This is a bad protection call. Most likely the line slid the wrong way. I'd like to think the blitz was disguised.

Actually, it wasnt disguised. Baker audbled CMC to go from his right side to his left to pickup the middle blitzer. I dont think T-Mo realized this. T-Mo should have shoved Clowney inside and then switched over to the blitzer. 

Regardless, Baker should have saw this coming. 

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The issue is that it's hard to help the guys in the middle. Elflein is just bad. Corbett appeared to be shaky, best. BC has obvious limitations in terms of power but I think he can still be effective.

If Bozeman isn't an upgrade over Elflein, that is really bad. I think Mays might even be an upgrade over Corbett but that won't happen until very late in the season with Rhule being the way he is.

I despise Elf... but outside of his snap issues (which i think he should be benched for) he played pretty well yesterday. It was surprising.  

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

This is a bad protection call. Most likely the line slid the wrong way.

That'd be on Elflein.

[ThPantherFan]

27 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Saw that when it happened. I cringed

Doesn't help that they likely knew we weren't running the ball at the time.

It was unnerving for sure.

[ThPantherFan]

41 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Wow   Just wow 

we need a new HC

[Chaos]

We would pass on first and second, leaving no doubt as to our third down play call.  Those batted passes man...

[TheCasillas]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Understood, but I'm speaking in general.

We weren't threatening anybody with the run at that point, and definitely not enough for it to be an option in those situations.

it was our second posession, I dont think the Browns knew our "game plan" yet. 

[t96]

43 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I am not really concerned about left tackle play in that game.  A rookie going up against perhaps the best in the league was not going to work out well.  But they needed to give the rookie some help.  I guess they did eventually, but they waited to long.

The pressure up the middle though is more concerning imo.

Reminds me of Terron Armstead going up against Hardy his rookie year. Hardy made that dude look like a high schooler out there. Definitely need to give Icky time, Armstead was a top 5 LT in his 2nd year.

[Davidson Deac II]

26 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The issue is that it's hard to help the guys in the middle. Elflein is just bad. Corbett appeared to be shaky, best. BC has obvious limitations in terms of power but I think he can still be effective.

If Bozeman isn't an upgrade over Elflein, that is really bad. I think Mays might even be an upgrade over Corbett but that won't happen until very late in the season with Rhule being the way he is.

I agree, its just that we knew Icky vs Garret was problematic, and it took us a while to do anything about it.  

Of course, all this is a moot point if the coach was a little more aggressive at the end. 

[AlphabetsEnd]

24 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Actually, it wasnt disguised. Baker audbled CMC to go from his right side to his left to pickup the middle blitzer. I dont think T-Mo realized this. T-Mo should have shoved Clowney inside and then switched over to the blitzer. 

Regardless, Baker should have saw this coming. 

His first read was to the left, his second read was getting sacked.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

it was our second posession, I dont think the Browns knew our "game plan" yet. 

They seemed to know enough.

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

No, it was on Baker. Someone posted it above and I noticed it as well. Baker moved CMC to the left of him. He didn’t pick up on the potential blitz from his right and CMC wasn’t there anymore. QB also had to read that guy. If heather extra guy comes like that you’re supposed to get it to the guy he just left open.

If he audibled, yeah I'd give ya that.

Ultimate result is poorly executed either way.