Be mad and hate.. but..

[frankw]

You can't just gloss over data because you don't like it and then pretend you're the only one being objective. There is nothing wrong with being glass half full. I'm not even declaring the season over this early. But the same glaring issues are rearing their heads again in game one and once again we made a backup QB look better than he should.

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, jayboogieman said:

Facts matter. The Panthers lost after taking the lead. That means Baker did not lead a game winning drive since the Browns came from behind to win. If this or that happens doesn't matter. Logic and common sense shouldn't be that hard to grasp.

They were down all game Baker brought them back and had the game won.. I don't blame him for what happened after that..

[mc52beast]

I want an explanation for why CMC only got 14 touches. Are they freaking trying to save him for when the schedule gets tough?

[WOW!!]

Just now, frankw said:

You can't just gloss over data because you don't like it and then pretend you're the only one being objective. There is nothing wrong with being glass half full. I'm not even declaring the season over this early. But the same glaring issues are rearing their heads again in game one and once again we made a backup QB look better than he should.

I said I saw the issue but I can use context to say what I saw.. I didn't say your opinion is wrong I just gave mine..

[Chief Keek]

They're not going to have the benefit of playing Jacoby Brissett every week and not much success when you give up 6.4 YPC.

[Monrowed]

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Chief Keek said:

They're not going to have the benefit of playing Jacoby Brissett every week and not much success when you give up 6.4 YPC.

I agree and if it happens again next week I'll be down with you guys..

[frankw]

20 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I said I saw the issue but I can use context to say what I saw.. I didn't say your opinion is wrong I just gave mine..

Giants are in a pretty close game with a recent playoff team the Titans and Jones has a 146 passer rating. If we get drubbed by the Gmen again you can stick a fork in this coaching staff.

[WOW!!]

Just now, frankw said:

Giants are in a pretty close game with a recent playoff team the Titans and Jones has a 146 passer rating. If we get drubbed by the Gmen again you can stick a fork in this coaching staff.

Cool then win win.. Either we win or we get rid of a cancer.. I'm just not mad about this game.. But after 1st half I thought this was going to be a blowout and it wasn't.. So there is signs of life..

[d-dave]

I was very disappointed during the game.  They had three weeks to basically game plan how to deal with and attack Cleveland's defense and pressure their QB.  That shows how poorly coached this team is, IMO.

This is the 2nd time in two years Bill Callahan has dominated our Run D, just abusing us.  Why wasn't that addressed?  That's just unacceptable.  

BUT - I did feel better seeing the team keep fighting.  Baker and Robbie made a heck of a play which seemed to lift the entire team.  That's great to see from the players.  The defense had moments where it played really well.

I feel like Baker will help us content in the South.  Which is something we didn't imagine would happen with Darnold.  That's my hope.

But the issues with the defensive line, with the offensive game planning, the development of Icky are going to determine our fate.  

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Rocky Davis said:

After watching the first couple of seasons of Rhule coaching the Panthers are you really still hoping that these issues are cleaned up?  They never have been in the past.

I hope you are right, I hope they are.  I am about out of faith.

Coordinators do the heavy lifting. HCs do the pontificating and speeches. This is the first year we have actually had NFL people in key positions. Sure we lost but how many.comebacks in the second half have we had under Rhule. New day folks.

[panthers55]

21 minutes ago, d-dave said:

I was very disappointed during the game.  They had three weeks to basically game plan how to deal with and attack Cleveland's defense and pressure their QB.  That shows how poorly coached this team is, IMO.

This is the 2nd time in two years Bill Callahan has dominated our Run D, just abusing us.  Why wasn't that addressed?  That's just unacceptable.  

BUT - I did feel better seeing the team keep fighting.  Baker and Robbie made a heck of a play which seemed to lift the entire team.  That's great to see from the players.  The defense had moments where it played really well.

I feel like Baker will help us content in the South.  Which is something we didn't imagine would happen with Darnold.  That's my hope.

But the issues with the defensive line, with the offensive game planning, the development of Icky are going to determine our fate.  

We are too inconsistent in all three phases to be a playoff team but I saw lots of positive signs that we are headed in a positive direction. The defense and especially penalties killed us today and extended drives.

[Jared Patterson]

Baker is soooo bad lol. Not a top 32 or starter in this league.... You're an idiot.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

a team that didnt quit.......motherfuger this isnt college this is the pros

If you say you have never seen a pro team quit you just exposed how few games you have watched or that you may be watching but don't know how to evaluate what you are seeing. It happens all the time when teams get drubbed like we did in the first half.