Really happy all those former panthers coaches and front office staff in Buffalo are doing well

[The Natural]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

My main question about the bills is this

did Beane and McDermott learn from the cam experience that qb off tackle should not be the staple of the offense? That no matter his size, running should always be at best the second option?

or, is not murdering your qb glaringly obvious to anyone that isn’t hurney, Rivera, or Shula 

Idk... Last night they were running him well into the 4th with a sizeable lead.

[hepcat]

They even have Mike Shula on staff! 

They are literally going to run back the 2015 Panthers offense. Their first TD was a very familiar PA bootleg old Panthers play we saw Cam throw to Olsen many times. 

[catnip]

just think what could have been if they had stayed with the panthers

[Mr. Scot]

 

[PanthersGTI]

Josh Allen is what Newton should have been. They saw what Rivera/Hurney did you Cam and took his clone basically and did it the right way. It hurts when I watch them. That could have been us. 

[frankw]

Good for the Bills that franchise has been through some dark times. In time hopefully we pass through this phase and get back to relevancy like they did.

[Donald LaFell]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

My main question about the bills is this

did Beane and McDermott learn from the cam experience that qb off tackle should not be the staple of the offense? That no matter his size, running should always be at best the second option?

or, is not murdering your qb glaringly obvious to anyone that isn’t hurney, Rivera, or Shula 

I just hate that some teams let their mobile QB bail out their o line 

[NorthTryon]

The only difference is that they deliberately went out and got Allen some weapons. They were calling designed runs and he took off purposely from the pocket a lot last night. Beane is just not going to sit there and let him have zero weapons. The kid was really meh until they went and got Stephon Diggs. You all remember him from the would've, could've files of yesteryear. 

I like to briefly think hypothetically of Beane being the GM, listening to our then WR coach, selecting Devante Adams over KB, selecting Stephon Diggs over Funchess, not trading any picks to do so, and our championship window not being slammed shut after one and a half seasons. 

Edited September 9, 2022 by NorthTryon

[davos]

The funniest thing is they're probably way past it because this was a half decade ago and we're still here all affectionate.    

McD left in early 2017, traded up to grab Dion Dawkins one spot ahead of us Rd2 to land his LT.  Solved it immediately.  This ain't the 'not so distant past' anymore by NFL standards.

Beane came in and they built a powerhouse together rather swiftly.  They were able to build up Allen, trade for top shelf weapons, develop weapons on both sides of the ball.  Only misses is they can't seem to identify a stable RB.  

They left, we haven't been to the playoffs since, they built a SB contender in ~2 years. 

Since they splintered off--QB wise, we've been through Cam, Allen, Heinecke, Teddy, PJ, Sam, Cam again, PJ again, and now Mayfield.  LT wise...Chris Clark, Greg Li...nvm, Dennis Daley, had Daryl try it out, Van Roten, Okung, Trent Scott, Daley again, Erving, Christensen (and I'm missing some).  Seriously..took us that long but I'm hopeful with Icky.  

 

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

My main question about the bills is this

did Beane and McDermott learn from the cam experience that qb off tackle should not be the staple of the offense? That no matter his size, running should always be at best the second option?

or, is not murdering your qb glaringly obvious to anyone that isn’t hurney, Rivera, or Shula 

He did run several times in the red zone with the game salted away  so no I would say they are doing the same thing to him that we did with Cam. Last night Allen rushed 10 times. 

[Newtcase]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

My main question about the bills is this

did Beane and McDermott learn from the cam experience that qb off tackle should not be the staple of the offense? That no matter his size, running should always be at best the second option?

or, is not murdering your qb glaringly obvious to anyone that isn’t hurney, Rivera, or Shula 

I suppose you didn't see the off tackle run with a few minutes left in the 4th up 21 then.

[thefuzz]

Rivera is just a bad coach, good man, bad coach.

[Panthera onca]

Yeah I thought that they were running Allen too much. He took a lot of unnecessary hits.

[Chaos]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think anyone with a brain knows the answer to this question

Hence why Hurney and Rivera didn't get it