Panthers cut Daviyon Nixon

[MasterAwesome]

I'm confused...pretty much everyone across the board highlighted our run defense as one of their biggest concerns going into the season.  Now we sign a veteran run defense specialist to replace an underperforming late round DT and people are upset?

[Icege]

25 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

Probably, instantly shows you are reaching for something. I don't need you to explain player maturity and give me some soccer dad take on players you know very little about. I was saying if a 2nd year, 5th round pick all of a sudden doesn't have the skill to play in the NFL, what does that say about our regime? 

See above response and I watched the games. Secondly, when you watch the games you as a fan barely know what the assignments are and what the coaches are asking them to do so spare me. Don't get excited because you have a bunch of posts on a message board and think you really know football. Hoskins got blown off the ball, has trouble with leverage, and doesn't even register playing against 3rd and 4th string talent. I don't know maybe that's what Rhule wants. I truly am tired of this team wasting draft picks in trades and picking bums who don't pan out this quickly. And they were praising him less than a week ago. 

 

You must not have watched as closely as you had intended. You don't need to understand gap assignments when that player is getting consistently washed out. Nixon didn't producE. In 82 snaps he compiled 0.5 sack and 9 combined tackles. Hoskins (in just 28 snaps) had 1 sack, 4 combined tackles, and 1 TFL.

The stats and film show that Nixon wasn't producing. As a 5th round selection, he had to do more to earn his spot

[kungfoodude]

48 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Mac and Bone said this morning on WFNZ there was some off-field stuff about Nixon the staff didn’t like. 

That makes a lot of sense, in that case.

[Icege]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

No it doesn't...

I don't know what to tell you if you have already decided that the move doesn't make sense based on where he was selected and/or whatever you perceive the needs of the team to be.

The stats and film tell the tale. A 5th round selection was outperformed by a 7th rounder and a UDFA. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Icege said:

I don't know what to tell you if you have already decided that the move doesn't make sense based on where he was selected and/or whatever you perceive the needs of the team to be.

The stats and film tell the tale. A 5th round selection was outperformed by a 7th rounder and a UDFA. 

There is really very little difference between a 5th and 7th rounder. It's small enough to be largely irrelevant.

[TheCasillas]

1 hour ago, NorthTryon said:

They drafted a player, he got injured and he can't even get a practice squad spot after one year? Then amongst each other they feel he didn't have the skill to play NFL Football. And he was cut to keep Hoskins? Make it make sense. 

coming back from a season ending knee injury isn't the same as coming back from a bruised elbow. It's highly possible that he lost his one strength, being quick off the snap. Who knows... but if you have an entire coaching staff agree on this move... then its not hard to consume that Nix just isnt as explosive as he was pre-injury.

[Icege]

57 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Mac and Bone said this morning on WFNZ there was some off-field stuff about Nixon the staff didn’t like. 

Did they give any insight into anything specific?

I recall a big part of his slide during the draft had to do with his off-field habits, which I took to mean not taking care of his body and/or preparing properly.

Edited September 6, 2022 by Icege

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

coming back from a season ending knee injury isn't the same as coming back from a bruised elbow. It's highly possible that he lost his one strength, being quick off the snap. Who knows... but if you have an entire coaching staff agree on this move... then its not hard to consume that Nix just isnt as explosive as he was pre-injury.

Or that regardless of his ability, he wasn't putting in the work necessary to be a success at the NFL level. 

Not all these guys live, eat and breathe football. Not all of them have the passion to strive to succeed. 

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Or that regardless of his ability, he wasn't putting in the work necessary to be a success at the NFL level. 

Not all these guys live, eat and breathe football. Not all of them have the passion to strive to succeed. 

He had character issues before he was drafted. Thats why he fell.. we took a flyer at him bc he had 2nd round talent, but metnally he just wasnt able to make it connect. I was a fan and a big defender of him on this message board. I have come to terms, he wasnt going to work out. You could tell in preseason. 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

He had character issues before he was drafted. Thats why he fell.. we took a flyer at him bc he had 2nd round talent, but metnally he just wasnt able to make it connect. I was a fan and a big defender of him on this message board. I have come to terms, he wasnt going to work out. You could tell in preseason. 

Yeah, it just is what it is.

If a guy like McCall or Hoskins pans out, it won't matter anyway.

[Jackie Lee]

 

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

 

This scene contradicts an earlier scene when he struggled to read the word "The".  Remember, T--tuh--th-- The!  Yet he reads this headline quickly.  I hope that ruins the movie for some of you--that is what I do.

  I am "That Guy"

 

don’t need to be able to read the to understand ‘man walks on moon’ fug off, GOAT movie

[Peon Awesome]

An overriding issue is that laypeople way overvalue day 3 draft picks. The truth is, once you get to the 5th round and later, the difference between a draft pick and an undrafted free agent is usually eye of the beholder. You need to have enough cheap talent to build a complete team and afford your stars, but whether that comes from your 5th rounder (Nixon) or 7th/UDFA (McCall/Hoskins), it's really irrelevant. It's stupid to hold onto a player just cause you invested late draft capital over a better performing player on an even cheaper contract.

[d-dave]

Draft pedigree has a lot to do with 2nd chances and getting cut.  Guys who were hurt, but just more talented players stick around.  Nixon seems like a great value pick, but he couldn't do much before he got hurt.  This preseason, he just hasn't looked good.  We were much more willing to give Vernon Butler opportunities because of his draft position.

It's not the end of the world.