interesting convo about jake post game

[rayzor]

between rhys lloyd and bill voth (one of the rising beat reporters) on twitter. thought it might give some unfortunate(?) insight into what the team thinks...

billvoth Jake plays like an old man in a Turkey Bowl game and wings his 4th INT of the day. #Panthers will lose 17-6 and fall to 4-7.

billvoth Not every time, but he's now 9-33. RT @Pantherfan4life: @billvoth Everytime Jake throws for more than 30 attempts, Carolina loses.

rhysjlloyd Landed back in Charlotte. Heading back to the house. See how the wife is doing. Maybe a beverage will be in the cards

billvoth @rhysjlloyd Rhys...what's up?

rhysjlloyd @billvoth are u really blaming Jake.

rhysjlloyd @billvoth u know better surely...

billvoth @rhysjlloyd of course, i wouldn't put ALL the blame on him. but i don't think i'm alone in thinking he's struggled this yr, today included

rhysjlloyd @billvoth trust me when I say 10 other guys on the field. I'm not trying to be that guy, but there are a select few that understand

rhysjlloyd @billvoth but in all due respect , the outside world and the locker room is completely different. We know the real story.

billvoth @rhysjlloyd Fair enough. To his credit, Jake would be the 1st to take blame, but that's what he's always done. Good of you to have his back.

seems to go along with what i have heard from others on the team since yesterday's loss...on offense and defense. the team, for better or (most likely) worse has an emotional attachment to jake and any transition will come uneasily. jake's broken finger may make the whole issue moot but still, there is going to be some holdover from the players. fox isn't the only one on this team with loyalty issues, imo.

not saying that this is a bad thing but maybe they are too close to the situation and can't take a step back and look at it objectively.

[Dpantherman]

I bet it is more than Jake. They probably Aren't trying. Fox and Delhomme have lost this team's trust. You can look on the field and tell.

[err456]

We will see how they really feel Sunday when they protect another QB.

[carolinarolls]

there is nothing interesting that concerns Jake Delhomme. The fact that he even has a job in the NFL had some luster at one time based on the sheer confusion factor but that shine has long since faded for me.

They could can his ass tomorrow and take out a front page ad in the observer stating that he played because he has held John Fox's grandchildren hostage in a bed n breakfast near the site where Fred Lane was murdered for the last two years and has been harvsting the children's plasma for use as an untraceable steroid for his race horses and I would not be shocked. I just don't give a shyte.

I would read that and be like.."ahhh makes sense.....Let's see who the Bobcats play tonight"

[CharlotteBeer.com]

They could can his ass tomorrow and take out a front page ad in the observer stating that he played because he has held John Fox's grandchildren hostage in a bed n breakfast near the site where Fred Lane was murdered for the last two years and has been harvsting the children's plasma for use as an untraceable steroid for his race horses and I would not be shocked.

:rofl:

[Woodcookedbbq]

Jake is a good man with one of the best personalities of anybody I've ever seen. Of course, the players are going to stand by him.

[Lilsmitty09]

to be in all honesty, Its going to be different without Delhomme. i mean hes such a good guy and he did a lot for us. good and of course the bad. its a shame to see his career go down like this. matt moore isnt the answer guys, aj feely isnt either. Moore is the best option, but i just dont think he can get it done. sure he beat seattle and tampa. but tampa played its 2nd string that game, and in the seattle game, we only scored 1 td and it was deangelo.

[Newtcase]

Rhys Lloyd is a kicker. No offense Rhys, but your not a real football player...Must be catching this bit of locker intel in between running for new cups of water for the real players..and btw...why don't you try kicking for a touchback every now and then..isn't that why your here???

[jpniner]

another reason why Lloyd should not be back next season

[Zod]

I wish the Panthers were emotionally attached to winning.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Rhys Lloyd is a kicker. No offense Rhys, but your not a real football player

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on the Huddle.

As long as games can be won and lost with field goals and field position, kickers will be valuable players. How many games has Kasay won us over the years? How many touchbacks did Lloyd account for last year?

[Snake]

Rhys Lloyd is a kicker. No offense Rhys, but your not a real football player...Must be catching this bit of locker intel in between running for new cups of water for the real players..and btw...why don't you try kicking for a touchback every now and then..isn't that why your here???

He's not even a Kicker. He is a Specialist. Which means he is not even good enough to be a Kicker.

[Snake]

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on the Huddle.

As long as games can be won and lost with field goals and field position, kickers will be valuable players. How many games has Kasay won us over the years? How many touchbacks did Lloyd account for last year?

LOL it dose not really matter now cause they just return it from 5 yards into the endzone. I think every team has figured out that Crossman is the NFLs Mr.Magoo.

[SMACKDAB]

Yeah...ok.

Let's talk sh!t about Lloyd, while we have the most inept QB in the history of the NFL. Jake is making Ryan Leaf look like a viable option right now.

I love the guys heart, attitude, all that and beyond.....but I'm tired of the dumb sh!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure most others are as well.