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PFF: best & worst vs Bills

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5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Just screwing with you since you tagged me on some random doing great in camp tweet. I saw him give up a few receptions. Not even sure who Hodgins is but he got open on CJ and caught a few. Didn’t see the big play. Anyway, I don’t put much stock into the camp heroes stuff especially since it’s meaningless when TMJ has twice been put up as a camp star. The preseason games have so much starters going against 2nd and 3rd stringers that it’s not a good comparison. I’ll wait until he actually plays to draw any conclusions.

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47 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Why Rhule again? Ok, maybe you can say he’s made every personnel decision on every draft pick and who to sign but why is he responsible solely for the 5th year option? Does he do all the cap decisions and contract negotiations too? Some people love that Sulieman cap star so why wouldn’t he decide that with Fitterer? Why would the coach get involved in whether you wait to use the franchise tag/long term extension or decide early with the 5th year?

I get the Rhule hate. I’d rather have a better coach but this is a huge reach that a coach with minimal salary cap knowledge coming from college would make what is fundamentally a cap/contract decision.

I’m not a Rhule supporter but damn it gets ridiculous with how much he gets blamed for that most likely wasn’t him. If Corral ends up as bad as he’s looked, didn’t we all say Fitterer was handed the keys or are we going to say Rhule was trying to undercut his development?

Dude, I don't hate Rhule at all. I'm a Rhule supporter and even I didn't understand immediately picking up the 5th year option. I was pretty much defending Sam with my comment because it is really not his fault that he makes that much to suck as the person I quoted was saying.

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8 minutes ago, Darknight said:

Dude, I don't hate Rhule at all. I'm a Rhule supporter and even I didn't understand immediately picking up the 5th year option. I was pretty much defending Sam with my comment because it is really not his fault that he makes that much to suck as the person I quoted was saying.

Besides, a GM is not going to extend a player without the coach signing off on it. What good would it do for a GM to extend a player the coach doesn't want around for a while?

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Besides, a GM is not going to extend a player without the coach signing off on it. What good would it do for a GM to extend a player the coach doesn't want around for a while?

You're right. I don't think I said anything wrong for him to come at me like that lol

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Just now, stbugs said:

A good GM and cap guy would know that if Sam did well they could extend or tag him. A good GM and cap guy tell the coach, we’ve got him as long as we want and we don’t risk him not succeeding and having a guaranteed $18M+. The coach isn’t making the cap/contract decisions. We have a “cap specialist” who’s been lauded by many. This should have been his call. Run the numbers and it was easy.

We really have to stop blaming him for everything especially stuff that absolutely is GM/cap guy territory.

Not blaming anyone. Just explaining the typical role between coach and GM. I never said it was a correct decision on eithers part. As with any coach/GM role they both share the accolades and them criticism in this business.  

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