If Mayfield balls out ....

[Jared Patterson]

2 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

If he plays well, he will most definitely be here next year - long term deal or tag. 

Serious question. How do we tag him if we are -35 million in cap space and the tag for a QB is 30 million?

[Raleigh PF]

Sign him to a 5-year deal...

... and draft a QB.

[Jon Snow]

Good God I bet you are real lady killer in bed.  

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, dynomite said:

tbh I think Baker will be pretty loyal to Carolina because they are the only ones to "believe" in him. I think if its between one team paying slightly more and carolina he would go Carolina. (this is all based on if he plays really well this year)

I don't think that is true at all. After all, he had to change his guaranteed contract so that he had to "earn" his money. Then he shows up to have to compete for the job. If anything, they have shown they have very little belief in him at all. 

This may very well be to rehabilitate his career for a better opportunity, because we basically have him on a one year "prove it" deal.

[Jared Patterson]

No, we cant afford him that's the main reason I didn't want to make the move. Some of y'all just think I am a hater, when in reality I am just trying to build a team that can win a super bowl and be sustainable in the future. This was a desperate move by Rhule to save his job, nothing else.

[tukafan21]

15 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Mayfield is definitely capable of a top 8/probowl type year. But he also can get injured and have a year like last year. You pretty much have to give him the contract/make him your franchise QB if he has a great year. If he has just a good year, I imagine the Panthers will explore options in the draft, or check on Lamar Jackson/Huntley trades (both are free agents and Tepper will do anything to get a franchise QB)

Crazy hard pass on Lamar

Even if you don't consider the cost it would take to get him, either the trade value or the contract we'd have to give him, I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

He's never been a great passer, his one big passing year was just wide open receivers all year long, their OC was outstanding that year.  If Cam's body couldn't hold up to the rigors of being a running QB, Lamar is going to breakdown even faster.

I think the Ravens believe this to be true too, because if not, there is no way they wouldn't have already locked him up to a long term deal, they want to see what happens with him this year both in regards to health and his passing ability.

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, PappyMay said:

Hoping he has a solid year. Would love to sign for a 3 year extension, 80% guaranteed at the Tannehill/Jimmy G price tag of about 28 a year assuming we win 9 games or more.

The QB market has exploded so those deals aren't likely to be relevant for anything outside of a fringe starter type. 

If he balls out, it's gonna be expensive to resign him.

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, Jared Patterson said:

Serious question. How do we tag him if we are -35 million in cap space and the tag for a QB is 30 million?

Its not easy, but not impossible either. The tag, doesnt really work, a long-term deal does. That way the first year will be something like 5-8 million in cap numbers.

Some cuts.

Brian Burns in on his 5th year deal, another long-term type deal with the first year being small would help too. 

It can be done.

[TheBigKat]

If he plays like Delhomme 2.0 I’d be tickled

[Jared Patterson]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Its not easy, but not impossible either. The tag, doesnt really work, a long-term deal does. That way the first year will be something like 5-8 million in cap numbers.

Some cuts.

Brian Burns in on his 5th year deal, another long-term type deal with the first year being small would help too. 

It can be done.

But can it be done w a 30 million dollar tag? I don't think Bakers a long term solution. I do agree a small 2 year deal would work best.

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, TheBigKat said:

If he plays like Delhomme 2.0 I’d be tickled

Baker does have the comeback magic......I think you will be pleasantly tickled. But at-last, didnt you pledge thyself for the beaguals fandom or was that just your emotional side talking? 

[TheBigKat]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

Baker does have the comeback magic......I think you will be pleasantly tickled. But at-last, didnt you pledge thyself for the beaguals fandom or was that just your emotional side talking? 

They were my playoff team last year to pull for… that franchise has unfortunately a lot of hapless similarities to ours

[Basbear]

Just now, Jared Patterson said:

But can it be done w a 30 million dollar tag? I don't think Bakers a long term solution. I do agree a small 2 year deal would work best.

It cann't. Unless massive cuts or the top 6 players re-do their contracts to push the cap hit into later years. I think next year Shaq and Mo town will be either the highest cap hit of their groups or right at the top. For Mo town its ALL tackles, and shaqs its inside LBs. Just add additional years and keep pushing the hit towards the future..........

Thats why a long-term is the only way. You *could tag him in order to prevent talks with other teams, but I forget the date...its the new year date, you must be under the cap limit by (guess) March 25th. Could re-send the tag before, but it would be silly to do so. 

 

[dynomite]

13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think that is true at all. After all, he had to change his guaranteed contract so that he had to "earn" his money. Then he shows up to have to compete for the job. If anything, they have shown they have very little belief in him at all. 

This may very well be to rehabilitate his career for a better opportunity, because we basically have him on a one year "prove it" deal.

I said believe in quotes for a reason. How many offers did he have though?