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If Mayfield balls out ....


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Can we afford to sign him long term or franchise tag him (which may piss him off.) Corral is an unknown commodity and with the injury, who knows. Sam is gone after this year and P.J is P.J. What should they do if he actually plays well?

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With our cap debt next year I'm not sure we could afford to tag him, tag would be $30M and we're already $20-30M in debt depending on how much we can roll over from this year. If you sign him to multiple years you can make 2023 mostly bonus money that won't count towards the cap immediately. Watson's cap hit is like $10M this year but he got $40somethingM in signing bonus. 

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Mayfield is definitely capable of a top 8/probowl type year. But he also can get injured and have a year like last year. You pretty much have to give him the contract/make him your franchise QB if he has a great year. If he has just a good year, I imagine the Panthers will explore options in the draft, or check on Lamar Jackson/Huntley trades (both are free agents and Tepper will do anything to get a franchise QB)

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Other than last year, if he duplicates the previous years id be totally down to sign him to a 3 year deal. I don’t think you would want anything more than that to see how he does, and you are not crippled if things don’t work out. The thing with Baker is that you know he is talented, he Can lead grown men, has an alpha mentality, and you know what his floor is. I don’t think a 3 year deal for someone like him will be something that will haunt us if it does not work out. It totally depends on his performance this year, but it is a very low risk/high reward move. Dude is on another level compared to Teddy/Sam “Gumby” Darnold and I can say that with complete confidence before he even takes a regular season snap for us.

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I think the long term deal is more complex than just Mayfield playing well. He may decide that he doesn't want to be here for a variety of reasons(bigger contract, better opportunities with another team, Panthers coaching change, etc).

If he plays VERY well, I am definitely not against getting him on a long term deal. 

It might get hairy if he plays fairly well but the Panthers don't win many games. If that happens, how much money are we going to be willing to commit? 

Pro Bowl caliber season might also lead to a massive deal, however. Keep that in mind.

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4 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

With our cap debt next year I'm not sure we could afford to tag him, tag would be $30M and we're already $20-30M in debt depending on how much we can roll over from this year. If you sign him to multiple years you can make 2023 mostly bonus money that won't count towards the cap immediately. Watson's cap hit is like $10M this year but he got $40somethingM in signing bonus. 

I believe Sam can come off the books next year, right? However, other pieces will have to be kicked down the road.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think the long term deal is more complex than just Mayfield playing well. He may decide that he doesn't want to be here for a variety of reasons(bigger contract, better opportunities with another team, Panthers coaching change, etc).

If he plays VERY well, I am definitely not against getting him on a long term deal. 

It might get hairy if he plays fairly well but the Panthers don't win many games. If that happens, how much money are we going to be willing to commit? 

Pro Bowl caliber season might also lead to a massive deal, however. Keep that in mind.

tbh I think Baker will be pretty loyal to Carolina because they are the only ones to "believe" in him. I think if its between one team paying slightly more and carolina he would go Carolina. (this is all based on if he plays really well this year)

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