Joe Person: Panthers expected to name Baker Mayfield Week 1 starter.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

No the point is other then "I can see this because I've watch football for 50 years" and By my watching football I can see he isn't good"

Instead actual data and information to Express why this move or that move is wrong...

You're basically saying "Rhule made the move so its wrong.. And I know this because I watch football"..

Nah. I've said why I think certain moves of his have been bad multiple times.

As far as the appeal to authority thing, I'd put it this way:

Let's say you build a house. It falls down after about five days.

You build another. It lasts a total of nine days, but also falls down.

You give it one more try, and the final one makes it for seven whole days. But yeah, still falls down.

Now, chances are you didn't do everything wrong when you built these houses, but you did enough that they weren't stable and now they're all flat.

Seeing that, I don't necessarily need to be a certified engineer or have twenty years of home building experience to some to a pretty simple conclusion.

You're a bad house builder.

That's how it works...

Edited August 18, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[MasterAwesome]

33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And also, thanks to the posts from guys like Wow and others, we're back to wasting time talking about the people doing the posting rather than the actual topic, just like what pissed off our mod @rayzoryesterday.

Sheesh

[Jackie Lee]

 

 

[Jackie Lee]

Another one

 

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

 

The old Rivera would never play rookies over vets, glad to see he is more open minded now.  Also Howell has looked a lot better than Corral so it does make sense.  Corral just needs a little more time.  I do look for PJ to get released soon so Corral can at least get some reps with the 3s.  

[Wolfcop]

Any team that starts a rookie this year will not have a winning season. Corral does not need to be taking reps vs. 1s right now. Getting more reps, yes, but not vs. 1s. Mayfield should be getting ALL of those. 

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, Luciu5 said:

No, no. Fitt did that.

TBD...if Mahomes ends up arrested for his involvement in a human trafficking scheme and we ended up wasting that conditional 2029 7th round pick, then it was definitely Rhule!!

[joemac]

57 minutes ago, frankw said:

Did Chip Kelly have this many stans in the Eagles fanbase? Hell at least he actually won some games. Back to back five win seasons. Three divisional wins in two years. Matt Rhule doesn't need you to defend his honor he needs his team to perform better because he's been calling the shots.

Why don't we see how he does with an actual decent QB and decent o-line before we completely right him off.  I think everyone knows this year is either now or never.  He had freaking Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as his starting QBs...and the worst o line in the league.  Having a healthy CMC will go a long way as well. 

[hepcat]

21 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The old Rivera would never play rookies over vets, glad to see he is more open minded now.  Also Howell has looked a lot better than Corral so it does make sense.  Corral just needs a little more time.  I do look for PJ to get released soon so Corral can at least get some reps with the 3s.  

Rivera is playing for an owner who might legitimately end up in jail so I don't think he gives a sh*t he's just doing what it takes to win at this point. No pressure hahahha

[raleigh-panther]

5 minutes ago, joemac said:

Why don't we see how he does with an actual decent QB and decent o-line before we completely right him off.  I think everyone knows this year is either now or never.  He had freaking Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as his starting QBs...and the worst o line in the league.  Having a healthy CMC will go a long way as well. 

Are we now going to act like Rhule, who was very heavily involved in personnel, and coach hiring, didn’t create his own issues?

the reason people are so pissed at this clown is that 100% of the issues are self inflicted 

…because after all, he is the smartest guy in the room.  Just ask him …he thought he could get just anyone and ‘coach ‘em up’ in the Nfl 

3 years later … here we are  

My hope is for these players whose careers are so so short and for the fans who pay hard earned money to attend, is that the nfl assistant level coaches are good enough to save the year or at least have this team look like it belongs in the NFL 

 

[mrcompletely11]

12 minutes ago, joemac said:

Why don't we see how he does with an actual decent QB and decent o-line before we completely right him off.  I think everyone knows this year is either now or never.  He had freaking Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as his starting QBs...and the worst o line in the league.  Having a healthy CMC will go a long way as well. 

My God you can't be serious 

[Darknight]

46 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

No the point is other then "I can see this because I've watch football for 50 years" and By my watching football I can see he isn't good"

Instead actual data and information to Express why this move or that move is wrong...

You're basically saying "Rhule made the move so its wrong.. And I know this because I watch football"..

 

Exactly! They come off like they know football but don't know poo. Just because they are a constant poster on these forums means that their opinion holds weight and if you go against them then you are a Rhule defender. Rhule has gotten some stuff wrong and he has not gotten everything right. I particularly didn't agree with taking on Sam's 5th year option before he proved himself. 

When Rhule does something right it's either Fitt did it or Tepper forced him to do it. Certain people refuse to give him any type of credit. I would respect it a lot better if people came out and say that they have a bias towards him instead of trying to hide it.

@WOW!!You are spot on

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

Any team that starts a rookie this year will not have a winning season. Corral does not need to be taking reps vs. 1s right now. Getting more reps, yes, but not vs. 1s. Mayfield should be getting ALL of those. 

Lol. 

 

Show your work

 

Alright here you go

 

But but but........

[ForJimmy]

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Lol. 

 

Show your work

 

Alright here you go

 

But but but........

The first sentence may have been bold, but I get what he is saying.  Most of these rookies aren't ready to lead a franchise to a winning season yet with the exception of maybe Pickett.  You along with many of these analysts have stated none of them are ready and shouldn't be drafted in the first round (and they weren't outside of Pickett).  It's Baker's team (this year) and he is new to the roster so he needs all of the reps with the 1s he can get.  Corral needs to make progress with the 3s/4s before he jumps up to the 1s.  We definitely need to ditch PJ if Sam is going to be our backup and let Corral get his reps in the meantime.