Patriots Joint Practice Day 1

[Mr. Scot]

54 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Couldn’t find crap outside of one rookie minicamp video where he mentions getting back in football shape and the long way to go comments from McAdoo and Rhule. Everything else is from training camp. That one minicamp video was quoted in every article I searched for in May/June so the search wasn’t fruitful. I distinctly remember a little more discussion that made me understand not just giving him the starting position day 1 in OTAs. I didn’t doubt he would get it, just not handed to him, which sure wasn’t going to worry me. I mean we had people in here throwing the towel in on him saying he’ll be a LG and here we are after preseason game 1 and he’s named the starting LT just like some of us fully expected him to be.

Nobody questioned that he would win the job.

What annoys people is that being a rookie, he'd need as many snaps as possible to get up to speed in the pros at his chosen position.

Putting him in a phony competition denies him beneficial reps (same as with Mayfield).

[TheSpecialJuan]

 

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nobody questioned that he would win the job.

What annoys people is that being a rookie, he'd need as many snaps as possible to get up to speed in the pros at his chosen position.

Putting him in a phony competition denies him beneficial reps (same as with Mayfield).

Again I'm seeing alot of rep Distribution experts on the forum..

Where was this indepht rep discussion in the 20+ years of Panthers TC before??

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Again I'm seeing alot of rep Distribution experts on the forum..

Where was this indepht rep discussion in the 20+ years of Panthers TC before??

Unnecessary because we had actual NFL coaches...

[Jackie Lee]

Noticed this as well

 

[CRA]

16 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

I get disagreeing and such. I don't get people who literally think they are better at this as people who havent any experience than professionals nfl coaches like Campen who also played. 

Well 2 things…

1.  This is a sports message board on the internet.  This is simply what has always happened and always will. 

2.  People question Rhule.  And rightfully so.  Because no one thinks the micromanaging hot seat coach is going to defer everything to people he doesn’t know well with his job and reputation on the line.  Campen seems like a solid young coach. He also hasn’t held down a job anywhere for more than a year.  I doubt Rhule is like, whatever you think is best, I’ll be over here. 

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Unnecessary because we had actual NFL coaches...

So James Campen isn't a actually NFL coach??

Oh and even in Rivera 1st 2 season nobody was talking about reps??

When actually "NFL coach" Geroge Seifert wasn't showing up for practice and bailed on the team.. Nobody talk about reps..

But I'll wait on the reps studies some of you are doing and hope to see a scientific conclusion to all this hard work..

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Again I'm seeing alot of rep Distribution experts on the forum..

Where was this indepht rep discussion in the 20+ years of Panthers TC before??

yeah, people never bitched about Marty or Ron or Fox or Shula or Davidson or anyone else.  Never blasted their roster management, game day handling, tendencies, drafting, free agency, manner on the sidelines,  etc. 

It’s just all unique Matt Rhule treatment that has never been seen before. 

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well 2 things…

1.  This is a sports message board on the internet.  This is simply what has always happened and always will. 

2.  People question Rhule.  And rightfully so.  Because no one thinks the micromanaging hot seat coach is going to defer everything to people he doesn’t know well with his job and reputation on the line.  Campen seems like a solid young coach. He also hasn’t held down a job anywhere for more than a year.  I doubt Rhule is like, whatever you think is best, I’ll be over here. 

Campen has been a Oline coach for 20 years.. He has more experience then Rhule.. And he isn't Young. 

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well 2 things…

1.  This is a sports message board on the internet.  This is simply what has always happened and always will. 

2.  People question Rhule.  And rightfully so.  Because no one thinks the micromanaging hot seat coach is going to defer everything to people he doesn’t know well with his job and reputation on the line.  Campen seems like a solid young coach. He also hasn’t held down a job anywhere for more than a year.  I doubt Rhule is like, whatever you think is best, I’ll be over here. 

Do you have Campen mixed up with someone else? He was O-line coach for the Packers for 10 years

[WOW!!]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

yeah, people never bitched about Marty or Ron or Fox or Shula or Davidson or anyone else.  Never blasted their roster management, game day handling, tendencies, etc. 

It’s just all unique Matt Rhule treatment that has never been seen before. 

Did they bitch about reps?? I don't remember the 2011 uproar over Clausen getting more reps then Cam at the start of TC.. Do you ??

I understand not trusting Rhule's "process " and results.. But we've never complained so much about practice habits and reps of any other coach..

And Seifert last year has stories of him not even showing up to practice..

Edited August 16, 2022 by WOW!!

[Basbear]

thanks to all for filling the thread with information.

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Did they bitch about reps?? I don't remember the 2011 uproar over Clausen getting more reps then Cam at the start of TC.. Do you ??

Do you even huddle bro? 

you name it, it has been bitched about on here.

and yes, people bitched about Clausen “starting” over Cam in the preseason.  Because they watched the 2010 season.

and they 100% bitched about Ron waiting so late to actually name Cam as the starting QB for the season. 

this Matt Rhule is being treated uniquely unfair is fan fiction. We have always been crazy here about the Panthers.   

[WOW!!]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

Do you even huddle bro? 

you name it, it has been bitched about on here.

and yes, people bitched about Clausen “starting” over Cam in the preseason.  Because they watched the 2010 season.  

And there are some of us rational fans who question the bitching all the time.. Especially when history shows that reps haven't determined much before as well..

I huddled more then most..

And 400 yards 3 it's later all those Clausen reps meant what exactly..

And still it wasn't this big of a conversation..

Edited August 16, 2022 by WOW!!