D-JAC gave the quote of the camp IMO

[Ricky Spanish]

I think our ceiling is an 11 win team. 

I also think our floor is a 3 win team. 

Based on recent past performances, current trends, and the strength of schedule, I'd put us closer to 3 than 11 though. 

[rayzor]

things look like they are pointing north, but they've pointed north before and we've fallen on our faces just the same. 

my optimism is suppressed by what i've seen in the past. i just have to see it happen. 

[Mr. Scot]

Don't know. Kinda hard to top Dan Campbell's "I'll beat your ass even if you only have one ass cheek and three toes" quote

[Panthercougar68]

24 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Vocal leadership wasn’t the biggest issue last season. The issue last year was that they coddled Sam Darnold and didn’t bring in any competition for him. That literally ruined the season. They’re still doing it to a degree letting him have first team reps knowing full well his ass ain’t starting week 

They both were issues and on paper both look to have been addressed.

[hepcat]

22 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

They both were issues and on paper both look to have been addressed.

Unfortunately a year too late. This coaching staff seems to always be a day late and a dollar short, so to say. 

[davos]

If we can get it to somehow work with Rhule, cool. I’m all for what works.

If the players like him, he’s brought in good coaches, and he’s reigned back decision wise to just not making stupid depth or in game calls, we can compete.
 

At the end of the day, Matt seems like a likeable shmuck when he doesn’t try to oversell or turn into the car salesman mode. Maybe he’s got some added humility and I cannot imagine he wants to maintain this perception of a deshuffled slimy czar for a team. 

I’d prefer a better coach but we can succeed with what we have when I look at the NFC (which is kind of a mess after TB, LAR, GB, and SF)