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Simms is right on the money re the competition

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6 minutes ago, frankw said:

This whining about not "handing" a QB the job cracks me up. We had open discussions about whether Darnold was being coddled last summer after he was handed the job and many people said such assertions were nonsense. Now look at us.

The coddling was more about him not playing in preseason than just being named starter. 

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1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The coddling was more about him not playing in preseason than just being named starter. 

Right and that was Rhule just playing the same smoke and mirrors game that fooled no one then and still fools no one now. There are four years of tape on Darnold doing the same things he's always done.

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23 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

No. It's just a other instance of dozens where the huddle is going to be right and Rhule will be wrong. Again. 

So how will the huddle haters  be proven right?

Baker will play bad because he threw to both the 1s and the 2s?  If we lose a game, its because because Baker needed those 1s reps?

Twos play too.  Every completed catch to a two this season will support the notion that the QB needs to develop chemistry with twos too.

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7 minutes ago, poundaway said:

So how will the huddle haters  be proven right?

It's all in your head. Last year you were all about Sam Darnold being held back by Adam Gase and Sam was going to turn the corner like Ryan Tannehill and anyone who thought that might be very presumptuous were just haters.

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2 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's all in your head. Last year you were all about Sam Darnold being held back by Adam Gase and Sam was going to turn the corner like Ryan Tannehill and anyone who thought that might be very presumptuous were just haters.

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Huh?
You predicting a Mayfield fail?

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10 minutes ago, poundaway said:

Huh?
You predicting a Mayfield fail?

Follow the clear trends and adjust expectations. Baker will be up and down like he has been in his career thus far but he will capitalize on big plays where Darnold failed because he was just a terrible decision maker with the football overall. For Baker to be a success Matt Rhule has to level up and stop getting consistently outcoached on gamedays. You can rabble on about haters but other coaching staffs know Matt Rhule's tendencies by now and they will be looking to exploit that regardless of who is the quarterback.

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2 hours ago, bruceleeroy said:

He's a top 10 QB when healthy.  That's pretty elite.

I’m telling you guys, he is the next Jake Delhomme and maybe even a step better. I know everyone wants to hate on him, but he is mobile, he can throw under pressure, and has a nice deep ball. We will score lots of points this season.

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9 minutes ago, frankw said:

Follow the clear trends and adjust expectations. Baker will be up and down like he has been in his career thus far but he will capitalize on big plays where Darnold failed because he was just a terrible decision maker with the football overall. For Baker to be a success Matt Rhule has to level up and stop getting consistently outcoached on gamedays. You can rabble on about haters but other coaching staffs know Matt Rhule's tendencies by now and they will be looking to exploit that regardless of who is the quarterback.

I think McAdoo will have us in a better position this year. I am not so sure we will get “out coached” when we are on offense, like we did last year. We now have 3 NFL head coaches on this team. We haven’t had that since 2015.

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2 minutes ago, philit99 said:

I think McAdoo will have us in a better position this year. I am not so sure we will get “out coached” when we are on offense, like we did last year. We now have 3 NFL head coaches on this team. We haven’t had that since 2015.

McDermott didn’t get enough credit. But McAdoo is the guy who couldn't get a coordinator hire in several years until shown otherwise. Hiring Rhule some babysitters might help against weaker teams. At a minimum there is no excuse for us not to compete in our division with the recent changes.

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51 minutes ago, poundaway said:

So how will the huddle haters  be proven right?

Baker will play bad because he threw to both the 1s and the 2s?  If we lose a game, its because because Baker needed those 1s reps?

Twos play too.  Every completed catch to a two this season will support the notion that the QB needs to develop chemistry with twos too.

You'll see it when regular season comes and you have these things happen more often than normal. Snap miscues, timing issues on routes, blocking assignments being missed, wasted timeouts, RB handoffs missed, etc. These are all timing issues and being used to playing with the guy next to you. It's not just Baker, the oline needs time too. But hey. Sam didn't really need to play in the preseason last year because TC was enough. Until it wasn't and our offense became more impotent than an 18 year old at a senior citizens nudist camp. 

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3 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Nah, fam. Darnold has gotten too many chances and has played like ass. Even when he has had protection, PROPER protection. Honestly tired of guys like him getting all the chances in the world and people like Cam getting the short end of the stick. This is BAKER's job. Point. Blank. Period.

Exactly 

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