Panthers Training Camp - Monday

[Steelo Senpai]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

He's either coddling Darnold or not ready to admit they failed on evaluating him and handing him the starting job and 5th year option last year. 

Not everything that happens inside the panthers building is an instance of coddling Darnold lmao.

I admit, I see no point in having this farce of a competition any longer, but to think there's an iota of a possibility of Sam as QB1 anymore is a masochistic way of looking at things, stop torturing yourself over it when everyone here, in the media, and in the locker room/ facility knows who QB1 is already.

[Jared Patterson]

58 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

not sure how you possibly got that with the lack of footage that is being released, but by all accounts Baker has had 2 really good days in a row now and his stats on the 2 min were fine. me thinks you have an agenda

Nope. We just have different definitions of "good." Sorry, I don't consider players like Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield as "good" and you will see in the regular season just how "good they are."

[Panthers Fan 69]

Rumor has it Sam Darnold carried Matt Corral’s jock strap off the field today. 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

This musical chairs crap on the oline is probably the stupidest thing being done an offensive line needs contiuntey, There is literally no way that some combination of Ickey/Christenson/Bozeman/Corbet/Moton isn't the top 5.

[MHS831]

12 minutes ago, Steelo Senpai said:

After you get to the 3rd stringers your results would be skewed.  Going against objectively worse competition to appease the masses on The Huddle isn't going to do much for Baker, if they (Baker/Sam) play past the 1st I'd be big surprised. Then what? Leave MC out there to play 3ish quarters? Nonsense talk.  

I get that-I really do-but I think they really need to get to Corral while they have a chance.  He will be buried this season as the #3 and they have some huge decisions to make about the QB position this winter.  But to your point, by the second half of most preseason games, you are getting practice squad hopefuls, so it may be more harmful than helpful...

Edited August 8, 2022 by MHS831

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, Jared Patterson said:

Baker is pathetic.... Cant believe we actually have two awful QBs still battling. Is this really where we are at?

Show me where Baker hurt you?  Was it just mentally?  We already know you are going to be the guy screaming Baker is terrible after every incomplete pass no matter how well he is playing.  He is our QB this year and has had success in this league whether you want to admit it or not.  Let's just see how he does first and if he sucks then we let him walk with no cost.  

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

This musical chairs crap on the oline is probably the stupidest thing being done an offensive line needs contiuntey, There is literally no way that some combination of Ickey/Christenson/Bozeman/Corbet/Moton isn't the top 5.

The OL needs chemistry

[Jared Patterson]

7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Show me where Baker hurt you?  Was it just mentally?  We already know you are going to be the guy screaming Baker is terrible after every incomplete pass no matter how well he is playing.  He is our QB this year and has had success in this league whether you want to admit it or not.  Let's just see how he does first and if he sucks then we let him walk with no cost.  

Because he is not any good. QBs like Darnold, Teddy, Mayfield, (post injured Cam), PJ Walker, Will Grier and all the reclamation projects is the worst possible way to run a team. We are the only team in the NFL interested in these type of players. I am sick of it and even if Baker has his best season ever its not like we are winning the division and 8-9 9-8 would just put us in no mans land again, gives Rhule another excuse and we rince and repeat with someone like Daniel Jones the next year. I am praying Corral works out b/c we will likely hurt our chance at another top QB in the draft again.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Jared Patterson

[Steelo Senpai]

4 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Because he is not any good. QBs like Darnold, Teddy, Mayfield, (post injured Cam), PJ Walker, Will Grier and all the reclamation projects is the worst possible way to run a team. We are the only team in the NFL interested in these type of players. I am sick of it and even if Baker has his best season ever its not like we are winning the division and 8-9 9-8 would just put us in no mans land again, gives Rhule another excuse and we rince and repeat with someone like Daniel Jones the next year. I am praying Corral works out b/c we will likely hurt our chance at another top QB in the draft again.

What would you have done? Traded for Stafford? For Russ? Draft Fields? What is the solution to this problem since people making a pretty penny to make the decision either haven't looked or done it so far.

 

12 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I get that-I really do-but I think they really need to get to Corral while they have a chance.  He will be buried this season as the #3 and they have some huge decisions to make about the QB position this winter.  But to your point, by the second half of most preseason games, you are getting practice squad hopefuls, so it may be more harmful than helpful...

I'm sure MC will play a healthy bit 1 1/2 - 2 qtrs.  I just don't see it likely that Sam/Baker gets a drive a piece and then it's the MC show for most of the game, give him reps against the 2s/3s but when they start digging in the bag for players put PJ in to run the plays and let our bottom roster guys compete.

[Captroop]

3 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Because he is not any good. QBs like Darnold, Teddy, Mayfield, (post injured Cam), PJ Walker, Will Grier and all the reclamation projects is the worst possible way to run a team. We are the only team in the NFL interested in these type of players. I am sick of it and even if Baker has his best season ever its not like we are winning the division and 8-9 9-8 would just put us in no mans land again. I am praying Corral works out b/c we will likely hurt our chance at another top QB in the draft again.

Baker Mayfield was a top QB in the draft. Sam Darnold was arguably a top QB in the draft. Jameis Winston was a top QB in the draft. And if you're dysfunctional enough to have the number 1 overall pick, the odds are better than chance that the top QB in the draft isn't going to be your franchise savior.

So maybe you should start rooting for the team to do well with the pieces we have, and get over your loser mentality of hoping we suck enough that next year we might find a magic bullet.

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Because he is not any good. QBs like Darnold, Teddy, Mayfield, (post injured Cam), PJ Walker, Will Grier and all the reclamation projects is the worst possible way to run a team. We are the only team in the NFL interested in these type of players. I am sick of it and even if Baker has his best season ever its not like we are winning the division and 8-9 9-8 would just put us in no mans land again, gives Rhule another excuse and we rince and repeat with someone like Daniel Jones the next year. I am praying Corral works out b/c we will likely hurt our chance at another top QB in the draft again.

We drafted a QB and signed Baker on a cheap ass deal to hold the position down until Corral is ready.  What are you still crying about?  Are you concerned Baker will be too good and ruin our draft position, because that ruins your argument that he isn't any good.  If he isn't we should have a nice high pick in a loaded class next year with no financial obligation to Baker. There is nothing to cry about concerning the QB position except how Rhule is handling this "competition."   

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

12 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Because he is not any good. QBs like Darnold, Teddy, Mayfield, (post injured Cam), PJ Walker, Will Grier and all the reclamation projects is the worst possible way to run a team. We are the only team in the NFL interested in these type of players. I am sick of it and even if Baker has his best season ever its not like we are winning the division and 8-9 9-8 would just put us in no mans land again, gives Rhule another excuse and we rince and repeat with someone like Daniel Jones the next year. I am praying Corral works out b/c we will likely hurt our chance at another top QB in the draft again.

 

[Jared Patterson]

5 minutes ago, Steelo Senpai said:

What would you have done? Traded for Stafford? For Russ? Draft Fields? What is the solution to this problem since people making a pretty penny to make the decision either haven't looked or done it so far.

 

I'm sure MC will play a healthy bit 1 1/2 - 2 qtrs.  I just don't see it likely that Sam/Baker gets a drive a piece and then it's the MC show for most of the game, give him reps against the 2s/3s but when they start digging in the bag for players put PJ in to run the plays and let our bottom roster guys compete.

I would've never signed someone with an obvious ceiling like Teddy Bridgewater (to a MASSIVE contract) and would've tanked only one year and had the choice of T Law, Wilson, Jones, Lance, Fields, etc while having a ton of money to build around them. Also, would've fired Hurney before selecting a head coach. Not that hard. 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Jared Patterson

[Jackie Lee]

Just as I predicted instead of a legit camp confidential they're trying to piece together 20 minutes of twitter clips everyones already seen. New media team or whoever is limiting their access sucks