Revisiting Teddy Bridgewater

[Mr. Scot]

In the midst of discussions about Baker Mayfield, Joe Brady, Sam Darnold and others, this tidbit from John...

So the coach who "couldn't wait to work with Cam Newton" was the main guy pushing for Teddy Bridgewater...

Not the first time we've heard this suggested. If I remember correctly, Roaring Riot said something similar.

I know the question of who was ultimately behind that decision has been pretty heavily discussed on this forum.

[CRA]

but but but I was told by Rhule fan boys Joe Brady (the guy whose MO is attacking deep) demanded checkdown Teddy Bridgewater and then demanded one read Sam turnover machine. 

Matt Rhule has no idea how to build anything.  That much is clear.  No pairings have ever made sense. 

[pantherj]

Basically the HC and GM have to land a top tier QB or prospect. Otherwise you're team, no matter what you do with the scheme or overall talent, will be either lower tier or a bottom feeder. I don't care about outlier teams that had a good season with a lower tier QB. Sustained success comes from having a highly talented QB.

Fitt and Rhule failed with Teddy, Sam, and Cam. We now have Baker and at some point Rhule and Fitt will be dumped for bringing in QBs who are not good enough for sustained success.

Teddy was good enough to allow us to beat bottom tier teams, and miracle out a win here or there against a better team. Not anywhere near good enough to expect playoff wins no matter what we did in team building. The crazy thing was that we all expected just that before he even started for us.

With Sam I had no positive expectations whatsoever. I expected him to fail, and he did exactly that. How is it that Huddlers knew better than our GM and HC? Our expectations played out, and their expectations were WAY off. Not even close. Fitt and Rhule will be fired in a few years imo. They can't find QBs. 

 

Edited July 8, 2022 by pantherj

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Basically the HC and GM have to land a top tier QB or prospect. Otherwise you're team, no matter what you do with the scheme or overall talent, will be either lower tier or a bottom feeder. I don't care about outlier teams that had a good season with a lower tier QB. Sustained success comes from having a highly talented QB.

Fitt and Rhule failed with Teddy, Sam, and Cam. We now have Baker and at some point Rhule and Fitt will be dumped for bringing in QBs who are not good enough for sustained success.

 

 

Big picture, it's all about the QB. 

But if you have a good coach and a well built team......you shouldn't be a bottom feeder if you are just missing the QB.  Bottom feeder teams are missing more than a QB. 

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Basically the HC and GM have to land a top tier QB or prospect. 

Well remember, the GM when Bridgewater came here was Marty Hurney.

General consensus has been that he was pretty well on board with Bridgewater as well. Of course, Marty was in "save my ass" mode at the time.

[kungfoodude]

At this point all the chaos has to tie in to Rhule at some level. He is the common factor.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

At this point all the chaos has to tie in to Rhule at some level. He is the common factor.

Here is Matt telling Baker and Sam about the DBO sign

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

At this point all the chaos has to tie in to Rhule at some level. He is the common factor.

If you look at John's Twitter timeline today, he's got an extended back and forth with some yahoo trying to tell him how Matt Rhule is going to turn it all around this season.

[poundaway]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

In the midst of discussions about Baker Mayfield, Joe Brady, Sam Darnold and others, this tidbit from John...

So the coach who "couldn't wait to work with Cam Newton" was the main guy pushing for Teddy Bridgewater...

Not the first time we've heard this suggested. If I remember correctly, Roaring Riot said something similar.

I know the question of who was ultimately behind that decision has been pretty heavily discussed on this forum.

 

So Tepper pushed for Brady.  Rhule always said Brady was outside his comfort zone.

Brady was a much bigger mistake than Teddy. 

Teddy would have performed better if he had an OC who could spell OC, or knew what an OC was, or could design more than one route.

[kungfoodude]

37 minutes ago, poundaway said:

 

So Tepper pushed for Brady.  Rhule always said Brady was outside his comfort zone.

Brady was a much bigger mistake than Teddy. 

Teddy would have performed better if he had an OC who could spell OC, or knew what an OC was, or could design more than one route.

Teddy was pretty close to his ceiling here.

[hepcat]

49 minutes ago, poundaway said:

 

So Tepper pushed for Brady.  Rhule always said Brady was outside his comfort zone.

Brady was a much bigger mistake than Teddy. 

Teddy would have performed better if he had an OC who could spell OC, or knew what an OC was, or could design more than one route.

100% agree that Brady was the bigger mistake than signing Teddy but without Brady I doubt Teddy is a Panther. But cutting Cam without a legit plan for a long term replacement was also a huge mistake

[Sgt Schultz]

The irony of the Teddy situation is it demonstrated exactly how scatterbrained our current organization is.

He had the audacity to level criticisms at our all-knowing coaching staff and had to be banished.  We showed him by screwing ourselves with Darnold (both in what we gave up to get him and then picking up the fifth year).  And Teddy's criticisms turned out to be pretty accurate.

[frankw]

Joe spoke as enthusiastically about Bridgewater as Rhule did. He had built in familiarity with the Saints offense. Tepper might have pushed for Brady but Joe had plenty to do with Teddy signing here. It's still on Rhule though. He had to put his stamp on the offense after moving on from Cam so quickly. Instead of being patient and drafting his own guy he was stubborn and impatient yet at the same time we were still being fed a story about a rebuild. Just a mess.

[Davidson Deac II]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

In the midst of discussions about Baker Mayfield, Joe Brady, Sam Darnold and others, this tidbit from John...

So the coach who "couldn't wait to work with Cam Newton" was the main guy pushing for Teddy Bridgewater...

Not the first time we've heard this suggested. If I remember correctly, Roaring Riot said something similar.

I know the question of who was ultimately behind that decision has been pretty heavily discussed on this forum.

Our quarterback related decisions have been a cluster#$%^ from day one.  That is the main issue I have with Rhule.  And if Mayfield/Corral doesn't work out, it will be why he is canned by Jan 2023.

Edited July 8, 2022 by Davidson Deac II