Ellis Williams long term qb plan

[raleigh-panther]

Obviously his opinion 
 

Panthers trade for Baker Mayfield doesn’t change their long-term QB plan. He’s already here

 

BY ELLIS L. WILLIAMS

EWILLIAMS@CHARLOTTEOBSERVER.

 

Panthers training camp is going from warm and predictable to hot and wild.

By trading with the Cleveland Browns for quarterback Baker Mayfield on Thursday, Carolina instantly adds competition to its quarterback room of Sam Darnold, PJ Walker, rookie Matt Corral and the undrafted rookie Davis Cheek. In exchange for Mayfield, the Panthers agreed to trade a conditional 2024 fifth-round pick; that pick becomes a fourth-round selection if he plays around 70% of offensive snaps this season. 

Mayfield and Darnold — who were the Nos. 1 and 3 picks in the 2018 draft — will enter training camp with an open competition at quarterback, according to a league source. With Darnold and Mayfield battling for first-team reps, expectations for Corral should be lowered while Walker and Cheeks are both likely training camp cuts. (Unless the Panthers decide to carry four quarterbacks, which would help Walker.) Cheeks will garner practice squad interest. 

The team has no plans to cut Darnold, who is guaranteed $18.98 million this season, and has not explored trading him, according to a league source. 

Carolina drafted Corral out of Ole Miss with plans to develop him slowly, and bringing in Mayfield decreases his chances of seeing the field this season. If Mayfield beats out Darnold in training camp, then Darnold becomes the league’s highest-paid backup while Corral would likely be the third quarterback.

The Panthers did call Corral to inform him of the trade and ensured him that he is still their future of the position, according to a league source.

 

For Corral, he’ll have a year to learn under Darnold and Mayfield. Considering the team traded a 2023 third-round pick to move up and draft him in the third round back in April, the Panthers are still excited about his future at the position. And despite making positive strides during OTAs, new offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo is installing a complex system, one the rookie admitted is challenging to learn. 

Adding Mayfield eliminates almost any possibility of Corral starting because of injury early this season. The goal is to let Corral learn the offense — similar to how Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes sat behind proven starters — until he is fully ready to start. 

Since both Darnold and Mayfield are playing on expiring contracts, the team can evaluate both at year’s end and make a comfortable decision knowing Corral is still available for the long term. 

From Mayfield’s perspective, he isn’t coming to Carolina to lose a quarterback competition or serve as a mentor. He’s here to revamp his career, remake his league-wide image and eventually land a long-term contract with the Panthers or elsewhere. Mayfield-to-Carolina happened because it’s the best short-term move for all three parties, with the potential to be a multi-year solution for all.

For several weeks, the Panthers and Browns had the parameters of a trade set but neither side could agree on how much of Mayfield’s $18.9 million each would pay. Once Mayfield agreed to trim $3.5 million off his deal, the Browns were comfortable paying $10.5 million while Carolina picked up the remaining $4.858 million. Mayfield can recoup the missing $3.5 million via on-field incentives based on playing time percentage and performance. 

The Panthers parted with a conditional fifth-round pick (which can become a fourth-round pick), a low price for a quarterback who is only a year removed from posting career bests in interceptions (8), QBR (65.5), and yards per attempt (7.7). A closer look reveals he was one of the best quarterbacks in the league over his last six games of the 2020 season. Mayfield threw for 1,713 yards, 11 touchdowns, one interception and a 103.4 rating. The Browns went 4-2 before beating the Steelers on wild-card weekend, giving Cleveland its first postseason victory since 1994.

A year ago at this time, Mayfield was on the cusp of many top 10 quarterback lists. Always polarizing, the former Heisman winner set out to prove he was the Browns’ long-term solution as Mayfield and the Browns worked towards a contract extension. But in Week 2, Mayfield tore his left labrum while trying to tackle a Houston Texans player after an interception. 

Mayfield played through the pain but did not perform anywhere near his 2020 self. His 13 interceptions were tied for fourth-most. He posted a 35.1 QBR, fifth-lowest among starting quarterbacks and led the Browns to an underwhelming 8-9 record. 

Cleveland entered the season with Super Bowl expectations and fell drastically short. Throughout the season there was a disconnect between Mayfield and head coach Kevin Stefanski. While the Browns were losing games, Mayfield was unhappy with the playcalling and thought the team was not playing to his strengths. He also did not like the messaging surrounding his in-season injuries, which in addition to his torn left labrum included a bruised heel and knee and groin injuries. 

Once Cleveland openly courted Deshaun Watson (along with Carolina, Atlanta and New Orleans), Mayfield requested a trade. When Watson (who is still awaiting disciple from the league office regarding his pending civil lawsuits) chose to waive his no-trade clause to join the Browns, it was a matter of when Cleveland would trade Mayfield, not if. 

Enter Carolina. Head coach Matt Rhule is coming off consecutive five-win seasons and must win-now to keep his job. Owner David Tepper, burned by two big offseason quarterback moves (Teddy Bridgewater in 2020 and Darnold last season) is hoping the third time will reverse his fortunes. And Mayfield — desperate for a new locker room — landed in the only place where he’d be offered an opportunity to compete for a starting job. 

Compete is exactly what Mayfield is expected to do in Carolina, and it’s what he’s done his entire career. As a Texas Tech walk-on freshman, he won the starting job in 2013 but when Kliff Kingsbury didn’t put him on scholarship after, he transferred to Oklahoma. There, he beat out Trevor Knight for the starting job and won the Heisman Trophy before becoming the top draft pick.

He won’t be handed the No. 1 spot. Mayfield is already behind incumbent quarterbacks Darnold, Corral, Walker and Cheeks in the playbook after minicamp last month. Besides newcomer Rashard Higgins, who Mayfield played four seasons with, he’ll be throwing to all new targets.

But Mayfield is used to adversity-riddled roads, lined with doubters and naysayers. Cleveland drafted Mayfield No. 1 overall after going 0-16. By Year 3, the Browns were 11-5, made the playoffs for the first since 2002 and won their first playoff game since 1994. To thank his former quarterback for those accomplishments and more, Browns Executive Vice President of Football Operations and General Manager Andrew Berry released a statement Wednesday afternoon addressing Mayfield.

Baker Mayfield infused our organization with tenacity and grit during his time as our starting quarterback,” Berry said in a statement. “Baker’s competitiveness, toughness and ability to persevere were all characteristics that endeared him to our city as well as his teammates. He will always have a unique place in Browns history for what he accomplished and we wish him well as he continues his career.”

Berry was a part of the front office that drafted Mayfield. He knows better than anyone what Mayfield brings to an organization. The Panthers’ newest quarterback wields natural tenacity, grit, competitiveness and toughness. 

Most importantly, he perseveres.

[mrcompletely11]

::sigh::

 

shake my damn head

[Waldo]

We are picking in the top 10 again. That has more to do with the long term QB plans than the noise from today.

So much fluff on yet another reject. Last year was the basically a rookie Sam. This year it's Baker took the Browns to the playoffs. So did Anderson lol.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Waldo

[Mr. Scot]

Williams had been on board with trading for Mayfield pretty much from the get-go...

[Jackie Lee]

Well he sounds like the opposite of Darnold which is great. I still think Rhule is going to find some way to screw up whatever chances of success we may have. Mayfield looked different every year with different OC's adjusting to his pros and cons and we haven't seen this staff make a single adjustment yet. McAdoo is new but I don't think he's revered as a genius offensive mind as far as adapting to the players around him. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Ellis Williams is good at his job it’s gonna suck when he moves on after the season 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Been saying this to the crybabies all day. Corral isn't going anywhere. He's our future if he's legit. A year learning will help him more than harm him. The team wasn't going to the Playoffs anyway so it won't harm us either.

[Proudiddy]

37 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

With Darnold and Mayfield battling for first-team reps, expectations for Corral should be lowered while Walker and Cheeks are both likely training camp cuts. (Unless the Panthers decide to carry four quarterbacks, which would help Walker.) Cheeks will garner practice squad interest. 

Freudian slip?

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Freudian slip?

Nope...or not much of one at least.

Panthers QB Davis Cheek

Edited July 7, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[Proudiddy]

As far as what's taken place...  as I've said before throughout the huddle since the rumors started, Baker is a good QB.  I'm not head over heels for him or anything, never have been, BUT, i recognize his ability.  He has Top 10 potential in this league if everything falls into place (system, personnel, coaching, etc.).  He can be more than a game manager.  But, he van also be very average...  but as the article points out, I was basing my evaluation of him from his play before last season's shoulder injury, and the 2020 version of Baker was a good QB.  They came within a few plays of beating the Chiefs...   I like this move infinitely better than the Darnold deal, and not just because of the compensation, but because Darnold was hopeless and has, does, and will continue to suck ass.  Baker can win you games, and regardless of what he does this upcoming season, I love the plan of bringing Corral along slowly in the mold of Rodgers and Mahomes.  Sitting even half of a season, but hopefully at least all of your rookie season could prove to be invaluable and with his tools and intangibles, Corral has the potential to follow thr same trajectory as Rodgers and Mahomes...  love this.

P.S. - I am sad this closes the door on Cam coming back...  but wait...  what if we cut Darnold?  Hmmm...

[Proudiddy]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nope...or not much of one at least.

Panthers QB Davis Cheek

Big difference between Cheek and Cheeks nowadays, Scot.  "Cheeks" is popular slang now for someone/something being garbage or not good at something.  Also a safer, G-Rated variation of the use of "ass."

That QB is complete ass, bro.

Man, our QB is cheeks.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Big difference between Cheek and Cheeks nowadays, Scot.  "Cheeks" is popular slang now for someone/something being garbage or not good at something.  Also a safer, G-Rated variation of the use of "ass."

That QB is complete ass, bro.

Man, our QB is cheeks.

Oh, I get the reference

[Call Me James]

17 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Been saying this to the crybabies all day. Corral isn't going anywhere. He's our future if he's legit. A year learning will help him more than harm him. The team wasn't going to the Playoffs anyway so it won't harm us either.

Team sucks. Rhule is fired. New coach comes in and wants to draft his own QB.

Team is good. Rhule stays. They extend the starting QB.

Team is average:

Everything is bad.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Call Me James

[Carl Spackler]

20 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Freudian slip?

I noticed that too. He hasn’t quite come to grasp with the QBs’ names yet.