Baker Mayfield is a Carolina Panther

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Basbear said:

So are there new rules this season that prevent the panthers form re-signing Baker long-term after the season? They also have his rights via tagging as well. The one year is a blessing given it could go off rails too. Perfect type of risk for the panthers to take. The point of it all is too improve team talent and with this trade the QB room has improved. 

marginally, with creating a headache in the offseason

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

So are there new rules this season that prevent the panthers form re-signing Baker long-term after the season? They also have his rights via tagging as well. The one year is a blessing given it could go off rails too. Perfect type of risk for the panthers to take. The point of it all is too improve team talent and with this trade the QB room has improved. 

listen to the podcast its almost 100% about the panthers from national writers breaking down the trade, the roster, the strategy, long term short term and what the team is trying to do overall.

 

spoiler: its not pretty from an outsiders perspective

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wasn't that long ago, really...

What made it stick out in my mind though was that he found some no-name reporter and tried to build them up as if they were a better source than established writers like Mary Kay Cabot and Tony Grossi

He asked me about Baker and such, I told him 99.99999999999474747% Baker was done with Browns. The relationship was over. Old sizzle fought hard that Baker would remain and chance hed play. False given the news....

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

He asked me about Baker and such, I told him 99.99999999999474747% Baker was done with Browns. The relationship was over. Old sizzle fought hard that Baker would remain and chance hed play. False given the news....

Consistent pattern: He swore the Texans would never trade Watson and they'd make him play too.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

listen to the podcast its almost 100% about the panthers from national writers breaking down the trade, the roster, the strategy, long term short term and what the team is trying to do overall.

 

spoiler: its not pretty from an outsiders perspective

I know the futures deal is very cloudy, not going to say its rainbows and full of cap space. Cuts, Burns, QB, insane high numbers for "good" players are coming. Worry about that after the season, lots can happen to change all the outcomes for the off-season. If panthers find a true franchise QB all those issues will be minor. Baker is another attempt to do that. 

[rippadonn]

13 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

they just say its obvious that this staff is "scraping and clawing" trying to make it to another year without a solid plan

I like "flailing"

[rayzor]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

listen to the podcast its almost 100% about the panthers from national writers breaking down the trade, the roster, the strategy, long term short term and what the team is trying to do overall.

 

spoiler: its not pretty from an outsiders perspective

It's not pretty from my perspective.

[Basbear]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Consistent pattern: He swore the Texans would never trade Watson and they'd make him play too.

For sure hes in a slump. 

[mrcompletely11]

https://theathletic.com/3404280/2022/07/06/baker-mayfield-browns-trade-legacy/

 

another great article detailing his time in cleveland.  It just seems like a long shot that baker does anything of significance here

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

For sure hes in a slump. 

Has been for as long as he's been on here

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I know the futures deal is very cloudy, not going to say its rainbows and full of cap space. Cuts, Burns, QB, insane high numbers for "good" players are coming. Worry about that after the season, lots can happen to change all the outcomes for the off-season. If panthers find a true franchise QB all those issues will be minor. Baker is another attempt to do that. 

how do you define "finding a true franchise qb"?

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, rayzor said:

It's not pretty from my perspective.

Sometimes I wonder if it's worse to have a mix of competent and incompetent team leadership rather than just incompetence all around.

The hard part when you've got a mix is sometimes it's tough to tell where the incompetence lies.

[OneBadCat]

I actually like his attitude. He's got a chip on his shoulder coming here which is good and is much better than Darnold on a baseline level. What i don't like though is that it seems he relies pretty heavily on play action. It remains to be seen that he can slice and dice. 

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

how do you define "finding a true franchise qb"?

Do you have a few hours?

I know its wasting my time if I made a case for Baker, you crystal clear hate the guy. Im not a fan either, but hes a panther and until the playoffs are mathematically out. I want to win, even with Baker.